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  1. 08-14-2007 01:54 PM #1

    Make no mistake: The Koreans are coming, and RWD Hyundais are just the start. When former Audi/VW designer Peter Schreyer went to ply his trade at Kia (spelled V-A-N-I-L-L-A), we knew something was afoot. And so it is, as can be seen in the first teaser photo of the Sports Coupe Concept the company plans to reveal at the Frankfurt Show in September.

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  2. 08-14-2007 01:58 PM #2
    Wow.

    Don't know if I like all of it, but it's definitely a change from previous KIA designs.


    Modified by job at 7:00 PM 8-14-2007


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    08-14-2007 02:01 PM #3
    It's nice in profile. But the photo is ID'd as a "Skoda Fabia".

  4. 08-14-2007 02:07 PM #4
    George, is it possible for you to write ANYTHING that doesn't include "Audi" or "Volkswagen"?


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    08-14-2007 02:08 PM #5
    OK, this is now the third Kia concept referred to as "the first" design from Peter Schreyer;
    per Auto Express, the first was the Excee'd cabrio [ http://kiaworld.blog.com/1922755/ ]

    then last month it was the "TT Fighter" concept [ http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3344435 ]

    and now this, unless this "Sports Coupe Concept" is the "TT Fighter" <?>...

    whatever the truth, i think Kia scored hiring this guy!


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    08-14-2007 02:29 PM #6
    Wow, that Cee'd cabrio concept looks great. I could see that being a BIG hit in the Euro market.

    I say again, I think Kia is making a major error in not finding a way to bring the Cee'd here (albeit with a different name). I think could cause an entirely different realm of buyer to enter their showrooms.


  7. 08-14-2007 02:32 PM #7
    [QUOTE=vwlarry]It's nice in profile. But the photo is ID'd as a "Skoda Fabia". [/QUOTE

    thanks for the catch Larry. That'll be fixed momentarily.


  8. 08-14-2007 02:37 PM #8
    Quote, originally posted by Download_Complete »
    George, is it possible for you to write ANYTHING that doesn't include "Audi" or "Volkswagen"?

    I just do it to piss you off Matt.


  9. 08-14-2007 02:40 PM #9
    Quote, originally posted by slirt »
    OK, this is now the third Kia concept referred to as "the first" design from Peter Schreyer;
    per Auto Express, the first was the Excee'd cabrio [ http://kiaworld.blog.com/1922755/ ]

    then last month it was the "TT Fighter" concept [ http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3344435 ]

    and now this, unless this "Sports Coupe Concept" is the "TT Fighter" <?>...

    whatever the truth, i think Kia scored hiring this guy!


    Modified by slirt at 11:10 AM 8-14-2007

    That reference appears to have been fixed.

    I agree with you on hiring Schreyer. It should pay off. There are just certain designers out there who fully get building out great proportions with strong brand language. We all have our favorites, and Peter should certainly be among them.


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    08-14-2007 02:41 PM #10
    Quote, originally posted by slirt »
    OK, this is now the third Kia concept referred to as "the first" design from Peter Schreyer;
    per Auto Express, the first was the Excee'd cabrio [ http://kiaworld.blog.com/1922755/ ]

    then last month it was the "TT Fighter" concept [ http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3344435 ]

    and now this, unless this "Sports Coupe Concept" is the "TT Fighter" <?>...

    whatever the truth, i think Kia scored hiring this guy!


    Modified by slirt at 11:10 AM 8-14-2007


    FYI this is the sports coupe concept...just from a different angle


  11. 08-14-2007 02:49 PM #11
    George...you have no idea how this kills me! I'm a car designer.

    Kia is doing a better job of designing Sciroccos than VW is! (even tho the designer is imported!)
    (So is Nissan).

    I applaud the Koreans...it's been a long time coming...but they've arrived.

    The sign of a great company is the people you hire...Nice job Peter!


  12. 08-14-2007 02:53 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by sciroccohal »
    George...you have no idea how this kills me! I'm a car designer.

    Kia is doing a better job of designing Sciroccos than VW is! (even tho the designer is imported!)
    (So is Nissan).

    I applaud the Koreans...it's been a long time coming...but they've arrived.

    The sign of a great company is the people you hire...Nice job Peter!

    Yeah, the're making really ballsy moves and it's great to watch as an auto enthusiast.

    Funny thing about hiring... you still need to let them implement their designs. Ford has a ridiculously talented team of designers, but a lot of their end market product seems a bit uninspired... at least for domestic products from Ford, Lincoln and Merc.


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    08-14-2007 02:58 PM #13
    Ford needs a cloned version of Bob Lutz to get their designers out of whatever funk they're in lately and start producing wonderfulness again. They CAN do it.

    I agree that Kia seems to be afire with creativity and fresh thinking these days. Bully for them. It's fun to watch a former backbench carmaker come alive.


  14. 08-14-2007 03:05 PM #14
    Quote, originally posted by vwlarry »
    Ford needs a cloned version of Bob Lutz to get their designers out of whatever funk they're in lately and start producing wonderfulness again. They CAN do it.

    I agree that Kia seems to be afire with creativity and fresh thinking these days. Bully for them. It's fun to watch a former backbench carmaker come alive.

    I'm guessing it's not a funk, but a beuracracy. Lutz makes it happen. Does Ford have such an action figure?


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    08-14-2007 03:09 PM #15
    Quote, originally posted by George@motivemag »
    Funny thing about hiring... you still need to let them implement their designs. Ford has a ridiculously talented team of designers, but a lot of their end market product seems a bit uninspired... at least for domestic products from Ford, Lincoln and Merc.

    The rumor is that Mays is just terrible to work for, and that Freeman Thomas is so miserable, he's desperate to jump ship to Kia to work with Schreyer and Tom Kearns, Kia's head of the California studios. Kearns, you may recall, was in charge of the original CTS.

    Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman
    You have to be the least exciting gay guy on earth. If your idea of showing off on the Vortex is to put a 2006 Accord in your profile and confess to liking Ricky Gervais, let's just say I won't be asking you for sassy no-nonsense advice.

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    08-14-2007 03:10 PM #16
    Quote, originally posted by George@motivemag »
    I'm guessing it's not a funk, but a beuracracy. Lutz makes it happen. Does Ford have such an action figure?

    Mulally is rumored to be doing great things over there--morale is generally much higher than it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman
    You have to be the least exciting gay guy on earth. If your idea of showing off on the Vortex is to put a 2006 Accord in your profile and confess to liking Ricky Gervais, let's just say I won't be asking you for sassy no-nonsense advice.

  17. 08-14-2007 03:58 PM #17
    Quote, originally posted by George@motivemag »
    ...When former Audi/VW designer Peter Schreyer went to ply his trade at Kia (spelled V-A-N-I-L-L-A)...

    If Kia is Vanilla, what does that make the A6?


  18. 08-14-2007 03:59 PM #18
    Quote, originally posted by Swallow Doretti »

    Mulally is rumored to be doing great things over there--morale is generally much higher than it was.

    That's good to hear. I'd love to see them succeeding.... such a rich heritage.


  19. 08-14-2007 04:28 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by sciroccohal »
    I'm a car designer.

    In Arizona?


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