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Thread: Motive First Steer: 2010 Honda Insight

  1. 01-11-2009 12:24 PM #1

    Being a few years ahead of its time (and a couple of doors short), the first Honda Insight turned out to be mostly a futuristic curiosity for everyone but crazed hypermilers. By contrast, the 2010 Insight seems to be perfectly scheduled, and expertly aimed at the largest possible number of buyers. This mainstreaming of the hybrid has been happening for some time, but up to this point no one has been able to make a hybrid as economically accessible or as easy to exploit, mileage-wise, as this new Insight.

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  2. 01-11-2009 12:26 PM #2
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?


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    01-11-2009 12:34 PM #3
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?

    You're in a hybrid. It's the FUTURE

    I'd imagine it's more liveable in person, though. And all the controls are still in the same place they would be in a "normal" car (vs something like a Prius).

    I like things with two wheels and things with four wheels.

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    01-11-2009 12:34 PM #4
    EPA 40/43. Acceptable.

    The "7-speed" paddle shifter seems promising.

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    01-11-2009 12:36 PM #5
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?

    lol wtf are they serious????


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    01-11-2009 12:36 PM #6
    Quote, originally posted by Lwize »
    EPA 40/43. Acceptable.

    The "7-speed" paddle shifter seems promising.

    Didn't the Fusion hybrid get those ratings?


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    01-11-2009 12:38 PM #7
    I actually really like the interior. Very Avant-Garde.
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    01-11-2009 12:41 PM #8
    Quote, originally posted by Lwize »
    EPA 40/43. Acceptable.

    Sounds like it's awfully easy to beat that by quite a bit though.

    I like things with two wheels and things with four wheels.

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    01-11-2009 12:42 PM #9
    Those MPG better taste very good - cause this looks like proper ****e.

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    01-11-2009 12:44 PM #10
    Quote, originally posted by 1SICKLEX »

    Didn't the Fusion hybrid get those ratings?

    A bit lower, but it's also a whole size larger - this impresses me as much as the Fusion does for its class, tho.

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  11. 01-11-2009 12:45 PM #11
    Quote, originally posted by 1SICKLEX »

    Didn't the Fusion hybrid get those ratings?

    Pretty much and looks/acts like a 'normal' car. I'm very interested to see how the Fusion hybrid fares vs Prius/Insight. Hopefully, more people will be interested in the result of much improved economy and not so much concerned with being seen while doing it.


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    01-11-2009 12:48 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »

    Pretty much and looks/acts like a 'normal' car. I'm very interested to see how the Fusion hybrid fares vs Prius/Insight. Hopefully, more people will be interested in the result of much improved economy and not so much concerned with being seen while doing it.

    I hope people then give the Fusion a serious look and shot instead of automatically buying this because of the "H".

    I thought we had heard high 50s/60s for this car.

    The LAST Prius is around 48 MPG.


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    01-11-2009 12:51 PM #13
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?

    Someone has to photoshop more LCDs in this interior like the bonneville interior vents picture.


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    01-11-2009 12:53 PM #14
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?

    I'm definitely going to have to agree. That's way too busy. I'd rather live in the Fusion.

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  15. 01-11-2009 01:02 PM #15
    Honda's recent inability to design attractive, functional dashboards without cancerous growths is perplexing.

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    01-11-2009 01:03 PM #16
    Comparing spec sheets to the Fit:

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    1" more front legroom / 1" less rear
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    Among those specs, that extra inch of front legroom could be the key, since it's tight for me in the Fit.

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    01-11-2009 01:11 PM #17
    Wonder if it's got the Magic Seats?
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    01-11-2009 01:12 PM #18
    Quote, originally posted by VWjet »
    56 mpg real world is very nice.

    But, do I have to look at this to get there?


    ...Aaaaand straight to the "worst interiors ever" thread with ya.

    I realize a high tech car requires some high-tech displays but WTF?

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    01-11-2009 01:12 PM #19
    Funny, I don't see what's so bad about it. Busy, but it's not heinous.
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    01-11-2009 01:14 PM #20
    Yeah, I'm not a fan of that dash design. Too bad, because the rest of the car seems great. Simplified hybrid design, 40+ MPG, useful 5-door body and a sub-$20K starting price. Hard to find much to complain about there.

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    01-11-2009 01:15 PM #21
    Quote, originally posted by Turbiodiesel! »
    Wonder if it's got the Magic Seats?

    No, probably because the battery pack has been moved below the floor.

    I love the Magic Seats, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me.

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  22. 01-11-2009 01:19 PM #22
    What a bunch of dash-strokers you guys are

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    01-11-2009 01:21 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by FatSean »
    What a bunch of dash-strokers you guys are

    We aren't talking about materials here. It's more of an issue with either a cross-eyed design chief or layout-by-committee.


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    01-11-2009 01:21 PM #24
    That car looks like its going to be a challenge to see whats behind you with how high that trunk lid goes up.

    Inside I don't think its too bad. A very unique design and it seems to be functional enough, and not ugly. At least its not boring.


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    01-11-2009 01:22 PM #25
    Wonder how much Honda dealers are gonna mark this one up


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    01-11-2009 01:31 PM #26
    Quote, originally posted by 1SICKLEX »

    I hope people then give the Fusion a serious look and shot instead of automatically buying this because of the "H".

    The Fusion hybrid is $27k+ Midsize. The Insight is $19k compact... HUGE price and size difference, I don't think you can compare then just because they are both hybrids.


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    01-11-2009 02:03 PM #27
    I was reading the article and I'm a little confused on the hybrid terminology.

    The article says Honda's IMA is a parallel system while the Toyota's Synergy Drive is a series. I thought it's the other way around.

    I've always thought a parallel system means two ways to power a car. One route is the gas engine and the other, the electric motor. Like, two separate parallel lines. And at times a merger of the two when the electric motor assists the gas engine.

    Then with Honda's Integrated Motor Assist, you have the engine, electric motor, transmission and drive wheels. One route, one line.


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    01-11-2009 02:10 PM #28
    It looks way better than the Prius (despite the business of the interior) and is way cheaper, as well. But here's my problem: the Insight should be a really small, nerdy 2-door coupé.
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  29. 01-11-2009 02:13 PM #29
    I"m bummed Honda has drifted so far away from the original Honda Insight looks. I loved how it came equipped with styling that resembled a Citroen DS. That car much like the original Insight was way ahead of others at the time.

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    01-11-2009 02:33 PM #30
    Quote, originally posted by Lwize »

    No, probably because the battery pack has been moved below the floor.

    I love the Magic Seats, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me.

    Actually the gas tank is beneath the rear seats. The battery pack is behind it.

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    01-11-2009 02:34 PM #31
    Quote, originally posted by Entwerfer des Audis »
    It looks way better than the Prius (despite the business of the interior) and is way cheaper, as well. But here's my problem: the Insight should be a really small, nerdy 2-door coupé.

    It's the size of a Fit, it **IS** small, smaller then the Prius, smaller then the Civic.


  32. 01-11-2009 02:37 PM #32
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    Those MPG better taste very good - cause this looks like proper ****e.

    WOW that is one big booty!


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    Quote, originally posted by audivwdave »

    WOW that is one big booty!

    I like big butts and I cannot lie.
    You other hybrids can't deny...

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    01-11-2009 02:46 PM #34
    Did anyone else notice that under specs it says the LX has 8 beverage holders and the EX has 6! IDK why the LX would have more but with either package, that's a LOT. Motor Trend is gonna have a field-day with this car... Lights, buttons, cupholders! I expect it to win MT Car of The Year.
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