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 Motive: UlteriorMotive - Hardly a Harley« »

Sometimes manufacturers bail on a model for very good reasons (see: Pontiac Aztek). But if you know your automotive history, you also know about those instances where a machine may have failed on the sales floor through no fault of its own. Many choice rides tanked because their feel and function didn't jibe with the public's perception of the brand. Imagine how hard it would be for Buick to successfully launch a 300-hp awd rally car to compete with the WRX and the EVO, and you get the idea.

So when Harley-Davidson decided that their objectively excellent VRSCR would not be part of their 2008 line up (the VRS Nightrod and VROD models will soldier on), we were saddened but not completely surprised. The Street Rod never played well with other Harleys. It's a bruiser, not a cruiser. You can still find one if you look around, and it's worth the trouble... Full Story...

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The V-Rod has always impressed me, especially this version, but unfortunately the bike doesn't fit well into the Harley lineup. For one, it can turn corners....and not just turn corners, but it can lean without dragging boards. I haven't seen it myself, but I've heard the VRSCR can keep a pretty good pace on the track and in the twisties.

My only gripe about this bike is that Eric Buell isn't interested in using the engine. Buell is creative enough, and has the flexible customer base, to make something like the VRSCR work.



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Buell appears to have some interest in using Rotax engines ... and it's probably just as well.



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Just like to say that the site layout is really slick - good work

I like that bike though, although I don't think I would ever buy one



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I had no idea they were killing the V-Rod, it's one of the only Harleys I actually like! They sound awesome with a nice exhaust (not open pipes), much more refined sounding than any of the other Hardley Ablesons out there. I especially liked the Night Rod version. They were ridiculously expensive, but so are most Harleys.


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i ride a harley....





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I thought they were keeping the night rod around?



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IIRC from the History channel 1 hour special I saw a while back HD dumped a TON of money into developing the bike and drivetrain. It seems futile to drop it entirely after spending all that money to get it developed.



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This is the first I'd heard about Hardley killing the V-Rod. Oh well, if one is going to build a line of stupid bikes, one might as well make ALL of them stupid. The V-Rod was too good for Hardley. Even Hardley haters like me liked it. That's what probably doomed it.



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Maybe it's just me, but I can't follow the OP article. Is it claiming that HD is dropping the VRod line or just the one model?

FWIW, a quick check @ HD's website (and the fact I spend wayyy too much time at a nearby HD store) confirm that there are 3 models/variations on the VR for 2008.

Methinks the story needs a bit of editing....

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The VRSCR Street Rod is a model within the VRS (VROD) model lineup. The Night Rod and standard VROD will continue on, while the Street Rod version that the article discusses is being dropped for 2008.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Quote, originally posted by synthsis »
IIRC from the History channel 1 hour special I saw a while back HD dumped a TON of money into developing the bike and drivetrain. It seems futile to drop it entirely after spending all that money to get it developed.

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, that the engine was co-developed with Porsche... It was supposedly a pretty sweet piece.



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No problem, but HD "split the difference" between the StreetRod & the Night Rod with the "Special" for 2008 (same WB as the rest of the line, but lower, kept the Brembos, etc...). There's one coming in to my local HD store & I'll be bugging them for a ride.

Still not sure how that squares w/the article....

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Quote, originally posted by vwlarry »
This is the first I'd heard about Hardley killing the V-Rod. Oh well, if one is going to build a line of stupid bikes, one might as well make ALL of them stupid. The V-Rod was too good for Hardley. Even Hardley haters like me liked it. That's what probably doomed it.

Yep. Too many euro-snobs wandering into their showrooms. Maybe they were worried that people would confuse the DIRT-bag image with a DOUCHE-bag image.



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I love the way that article is written.

You guys definitely followed through on your promise about it's creation.

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Yep. Too many euro-snobs wandering into their showrooms. Maybe they were worried that people would confuse the DIRT-bag image with a DOUCHE-bag image.

That, and the perception that the V-Rod is a girls bike.



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 Re: Re: (leaftye) »« »

For all those commenting about the end of the VRods, thanks for making my point @ the article.

HD is NOT dropping the VRod - they simply modded & rebadged one of the 3 VRod models for 2008.

J

PS - and yes PES did a great deal of the work for that motor back in the early 90's - it's a nice setup.

One more thing - the snark comment about the McCrary twins - did the article's author not realize they were pictured on Hondas?

Modified by 2VWatatime at 2:31 PM 8-6-2007

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 Hey there fellow gearheads... I WROTE that story and... »« »


AND... I was pretty clear that it was only THIS PARTICULAR bike, the VRSCR Street Rod, that wasn't returning in the 2008 lineup. Well, that's an understatement. It's totally clear.
Here's what it says in the article.

"So when Harley-Davidson decided that their objectively excellent VRSCR would not be part of their 2008 line up (the VRS Nightrod and VROD models will soldier on), we were saddened but not completely surprised."

I don't know how you read that and come away with the erroneous notion that there'll be no more V-Rods.

Ok, enough petulance. I'm done defending.

Gonna go ride: I'm in Sturgis right now, dragging floorboards in the rain.

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