People throw around "boring" way too much these days.
Quote, originally posted by MEIN_VW »
This place is is insane - the biggest complaint I hear in the Car Lounge is that VW's are too expensive when loaded up with options and yet when they want to decontent and lower the price, the complaints get even louder. You can't have it both ways.
I think this looks okay, the old one was better though. I think the mk 2 Focus is generally one of the better looking cars in its class.
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I thought "facelift" was just a figure of speech [ugly image]
I'm not sure how it is in Australia, where the OP apparently comes from, but here in Germany, Facelift (in english!) is the term most commonly used for a midcycle refresh. There isn't a German word with exactly the same meaning, so when facelifts started to appear, the/an english word was used for it. Might be the same some where else. The word facelift seems fitting, too, trying to make someone old younger (sometimes with questionable results).
Personally, I really like the mk2 focus. I think the facelift looks good. It's been said before and I'll say it again, this is a mass market car not a porche. And you know what? I'd still hit it.
How can it be bullsh*t to state a preference? - High Fidelity
I laugh at the feature content a boring little Focus has. Feature content that Ford can't even imploy on a $40,000+ luxury crossover (also known as the MKX)
And meanwhile, for the exact same development cost, we're stuck with that crapgasmic "new" (old) Focus. Siiiigh.
Sure, but in Ford's defense the update to the US Focus wasn't expected to cost what it did. It's after the fact that we know that it cost just as much.
Sure, but in Ford's defense the update to the US Focus wasn't expected to cost what it did. It's after the fact that we know that it cost just as much.
Not to mention that update was supposed to lumber around for a lot longer than 2010.
Here's the quote from my wife after I showed her the pics & told her about the engine:
"Dude, if that car was available in the states, I would consider getting one." "And you know how much I love my car."
She's driven the current US Focus & has mentioned how she's happy that we didn't get one. She really disliked it.
Ford, you originally brought the Focus to the US market to give us a european style small car. Every refresh of the Focus here seems to be a step away from that direction. Why change a winning concept?
I think this looks okay, the old one was better though. I think the mk 2 Focus is generally one of the better looking cars in its class.
I'm not sure how it is in Australia, where the OP apparently comes from, but here in Germany, Facelift (in english!) is the term most commonly used for a midcycle refresh. There isn't a German word with exactly the same meaning, so when facelifts started to appear, the/an english word was used for it. Might be the same some where else. The word facelift seems fitting, too, trying to make someone old younger (sometimes with questionable results).
Very interesting - I find it odd that people think a human with their eyes yanked back to an improbable degree is supposed to make said person look younger. This mid-life facelift is apparently to designed to capture that "magic" and I'd say it has done so successfully. Unfortunately.
Not a great pic, but just to remind everyone how it all started:
Sure, but in Ford's defense the update to the US Focus wasn't expected to cost what it did. It's after the fact that we know that it cost just as much.
That's an explanation though and not an excuse. Shame on Ford for mis-estimating it. A car company that's been in business that long shouldn't be that far off.
-Matt 7,001,084 Californians don't want me to have what they have.
What a letdown, this is just as plain and boring as the old one.
There is nothing wrong with that car. It's clean, sporty, and high quality. As a matter of fact, I'm amazed at the difference in quality between Ford Europe and Ford USA. European Fords are better in every conceivable way. They are better to look at, better to drive, much more reliable, and better quality inside and out.
And Ford wonders why their sales have been tanking every year for six straight years. I mean, just look at that "new" 08 Focus to realize how clueless the US Ford division is.
And meanwhile, for the exact same development cost, we're stuck with that crapgasmic "new" (old) Focus. Siiiigh.
Has this ever been proven? Someone brings this up anytime a thread regarding the Focus comes up, but I've never seen any substantiated proof regarding it.
I cant figure out how this ugly ass witch and her butt ugly daughter have the gonads to call everyone out with what they wear- when they really need to go check themselves out.
I cant figure out how this ugly ass witch and her butt ugly daughter have the gonads to call everyone out with what they wear- when they really need to go check themselves out.
She's a real person? Looks like a wax figurine of some sort. Puke.
Here's the quote from my wife after I showed her the pics & told her about the engine:
"Dude, if that car was available in the states, I would consider getting one." "And you know how much I love my car."
She's driven the current US Focus & has mentioned how she's happy that we didn't get one. She really disliked it.
Ford, you originally brought the Focus to the US market to give us a european style small car. Every refresh of the Focus here seems to be a step away from that direction. Why change a winning concept?
My girlfriend's sentiments were nearly identical. She loves her current ZX5, but she fell hard for the European models while we were over there. She saw an ST on the road and she couldn't stop talking about it.
Quote, originally posted by VarianceVQ »
More and more evidence is piling up that Europeans are nothing more than Americans with more colorful money and funny accents.