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 NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan« »

It's been leaked, spied, shot in its homeland, and now it's here. Hyundai's first rear-driver for the US market, Genesis is driven by three engines — a 3.3-liter, 268-horsepower V6, a 3.8-liter, 290-horsepower V6, and the new "Tau" 4.6-liter, 368-horsepower (375 on premium) V8 — all of which are mated to six-speed automatic transmissions. The fun doesn't stop there — Hyundai says that the Tau V8 may eventually offer forced induction and larger displacement options, showing that there's some flexibility in the engine architecture. Keep your fingers crossed that the above is some creative foreshadowing by Hyundai PR as it relates to the drivetrains in the upcoming RWD Genesis Coupe.

Weighing between 3700 and 4000 pounds, depending on equipment, Genesis is no featherweight, but Hyundai claims that it's still a lighter and more rigid structure than that of Mercedes-Benz's E-Class and BMW's 5-Series sedans. That's in spite of it having more interior room than either — the Genesis is larger both outside and inside than both the Lexus GS and the Infiniti M, as well. Its styling is clean, save the awful fishbone grille, but otherwise so conservative that it's rumored Genesis — the Ron Paul of C-segment sedans — can only take left-hand turns very gently, because if it leaned to the right any harder, it'd tip over.

Genesis also boasts a few options that one wouldn't usually see on a car with a base price under $30,000 (the V8 is expected to come in at $35,000 nicely loaded, although Hyundai hasn't released pricing yet), including active head restraints, adaptive xenon lighting, adaptive cruise control, a stitched-leather instrument panel, and heated/cooled seats.

Some see the Genesis' move into the realm of midsize rear-drivers as Hyundai just following the Way of the World, that they're taking years of brand equity as good, value-packed cars and Throwing it All Away, but we feel that Hyundai's product lineup is being crafted with a deft but Invisible Touch, and look forward putting this car through its paces alongside the other newcomer to the market — Pontiac's G8 — in the near future.

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Benz might take offense to the grille, being too close to the design of their grille



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (Wes@motivemag) »« »

Seems the design was influenced by the Japanese cars that were influenced by the German cars. No Hyundai symbol on the front, no Hyundai text on the rear, interesting. The grille is somewhat overpowering, but the whole car is a pretty clean design. The interior seems pretty nice too.

Hyundai, you've come a long way.

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looks pretty nice. I just don't like the front grille at all.
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still don't have the balls to put their own logo on their own flagship's grille.

ugh



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (achilles381) »« »

wow. looks fantastic.

about my only nit-pick would be for it to be outright stunning would be to make the back end a little more muscular/squared off like the current Lexus LS and not quite as rounded/tapered as it appears to be. Looks fantastic from the front and side but from the rear 3/4 it loses a little bit of its aggressiveness (but is still attractive...just less powerful by the time you get to the rump).

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LOL @ the Lt. Warf Grille



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still don't have the balls to put their own logo on their own flagship's grille.

ugh

Honestly I'd keep it off. When the XG debuted back around 2000, consumers at those anonymous clinics were saying it looked like a Lexus. I don't think Hyundai's brand image in the US is still quite right to emblazon the curvy 'H' on it just yet. I think buyers of this car would still want people to go "ooooh what is THAT!" first and *then* go "It IS?!?!?!"



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (Wes@motivemag) »« »

That interior is awesome... don't like the grille though...

I think its really good looking, but overall gives off the vibe of a Grand Theft Auto car thats made to represent a Mercedes but can't look exactly like one because of copyrights. Hyundai should change their name to Maibatsu .

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THIS IS NOT THE FIRST RWD Hyundai for N/A
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Not too bad on the inside and the outisde is decent.

Excellent for 35,000. But I think the Azera goes up to 30,000 or so fully equipped with the 3.8 V6 with less hp and only a 5 speed box.



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THIS IS NOT THE FIRST RWD Hyundai for N/A

Aaaahhhh yes. When I first saw your post I thought "huh? yeah it is." and then remembered this...

Perhaps everyone is trying to forget about that Hyundai



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With a good grille that car is probably the best looking BMW wannabe I've seen yet.



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (Shining Projects) »« »

The design is an overwhelming mishmash copy of so many other existing cars from MB, BMW, Infiniti and Lexus. Yet at the end of it all, it looks vague and indistinct. So that bit turns me off.

But if they price this right, you'll almost be forced to like this car simply because of the undeniable value proposition - stiff chassis, classy interior, good powertrain.

It remains to be seen if the car as an overall package is any good (performance and handling wise) but if they get that last bit right, you simply can't ignore this car.

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Ah but now I look back...it doesn't say it was the first for N/A...says it's the first for the US, which is true (we didn't get that RWD Pony).



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (Wes@motivemag) »« »

375hp RWD V8 for 35k?

I'm sorry to say but currently this Hyundai beats the pants out of any Audi or Acura luxury sedan, by a long shot.

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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (4meezy) »« »

Exactly! Klingon forehead! Everything else is great, however. The crappy thing about the grill, will be the even worse aftermarket replacements (see Nissan Maxima, and Altima for examples), made for the buyers who hate the factory grill.Hyundai, if you can hear me, beam another grill onto this thing, before it goes on sale, here!

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Aaaahhhh yes. When I first saw your post I thought "huh? yeah it is." and then remembered this...

Perhaps everyone is trying to forget about that Hyundai

Audi wasn't exactly what you would call a beauty queen in the 80s either.


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Nasty grille. Looks good otherwise.
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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (whitejeep1989) »« »

For some reason I thought of this:

When I saw this:

But when i look at it closer it's not as close as I thought. Hyundai has come a long way, but they still shamelessy rip off other companies' designs.



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Quote, originally posted by InfinitiG »
For some reason I thought of this:

When I saw this:

But when i look at it closer it's not as close as I thought. Hyundai has come a long way, but they still shamelessy rip off other companies' designs.

Throw in another copy - although this time BMW and MB were copying each other

But you're right, Hyundai doesn't even attempt to disguise the fact that they're shamelessly ripping off other manufacturer's designs.

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Wow, side by side out of those 3 interiors the Hyundai would be the easy choice for me. That feels weird to say...



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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (rosskoss) »« »

Yikes^^^, I forgot how bad the interior in the 7-series was. Talk about panel gap.



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Another funny thing about the interior, it still shares a family resemblance to the Accent .





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 Re: NAIAS 2008: Hyundai Reveals Production Genesis Sedan (WhistlerYOW) »« »

Wow. Makes the previous range-topper, the Azera, look like a joke.

And the Azera isn't a half-bad car.



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holy cow! The grille will be an easy change for the aftermarket.. the rest of the car is amazing, especially the rear! I really really like it, good work Hyundai! now can you make your name easier to spell?



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So what happens to the Azera now?

Any guesses on what base pricing may be on this car? (3.3L and 3.8L)



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Some see the Genesis' move into the realm of midsize rear-drivers as Hyundai just following the Way of the World, that they're taking years of brand equity as good, value-packed cars and Throwing it All Away, but we feel that Hyundai's product lineup is being crafted with a deft but Invisible Touch, and look forward putting this car through its paces alongside the other newcomer to the market — Pontiac's G8 — in the near future.

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Yet it still looks better than the Phaeton did



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Another funny thing about the interior, it still shares a family resemblance to the Accent .

wow w/the right lighting and colors, the accent dash doesn't look too bad (for the price class anyway).



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375hp RWD V8 for 35k?

I'm sorry to say but currently this Hyundai beats the pants out of any Audi or Acura luxury sedan, by a long shot.

So what do you call the G8 GT at $30k with 376HP?



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Yikes^^^, I forgot how bad the interior in the 7-series was. Talk about panel gap.

have you sat in one?



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