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Don't see any pictures but specs and press release are up

http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/n...w.htm

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Don't see any pictures but specs and press release are up

http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/n...w.htm

Yikes! I'm hoping she's right at 4K for poundage or slightly under and can dance like MC Hammer



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She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

Wow.

It's all about weight management and suspension tuning with this car now. 550hp pretty much takes care of any competitors in that department.



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Numbersix) »« »

for the lazy:

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2009 CTS-V: CADILLAC’S ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF PERFORMANCE AND LUXURY
DETROIT – As the new CTS sport sedan earns accolades and new owners, Cadillac takes the next leap forward by premiering the 2009 CTS-V, the brand’s ultimate expression of performance and luxury.

Launching in the fourth quarter of 2008, the all-new CTS-V intends to combine the serious performance of an elite sports car with the poise and elegance of a prestigious luxury sedan. Part of Cadillac’s acclaimed V-Series of high-performance models, CTS-V delivers an estimated 550 horsepower (410 kW). More than just power, CTS-V also includes a comprehensive suite of technical and design enhancements, including Magnetic Ride Control, an industry-first Performance Traction Management program and the addition of a new automatic transmission with paddle-shift control.

“The CTS-V represents the full extension of our design, technology and performance capabilities,” says Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. “The V-Series takes the award-winning CTS sport sedan and elevates it to a position within the club of the world’s most exclusive and capable cars.”

As an all-new version of the CTS sport sedan was prepared for 2008, Cadillac engineers and designers began to scheme a new CTS-V that would reach much higher in terms of performance and luxury. Through the original CTS-V, Cadillac proved it could develop a very potent, high-performance sedan. The challenge for the 2009 model was enhancing every aspect in a comprehensive manner, along with reaching higher performance limits.

Several key technical and design elements combine to transform the already highly capable CTS into the new V-Series. Like the existing CTS, the V-Series is the product of an intensive development process across North America and Europe, including famed test tracks and millions of miles of road. Supporting Cadillac’s ongoing global expansion, the 2009 CTS-V is planned to be offered outside North America for the first time, including exports to Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

Sophisticated technical enhancements

The 2009 Cadillac CTS-V features the world’s fastest-reacting suspension technology, Magnetic Ride Control (MRC). It uses shocks controlled by electro-magnets, rather than mechanical valves, greatly accelerating response time. Electronic sensors at all four wheels literally “read the road” every millisecond, making constant adjustments to damping to create virtually instantaneous and extremely precise control of body motions. This is of particular benefit for a high-performance sedan, helping to keep the car very composed during hard cornering, acceleration, braking and other dynamic maneuvers.

MRC technology first appeared on the Cadillac STS performance sedan and has been used on some of the world’s most celebrated cars, including the Chevrolet Corvette and a select few European sports cars.

Enabling the precise control expected in a high-performance sedan, the CTS-V features Performance Traction Management system, borrowed from championship racing teams. This technology uses advanced electronics to manage engine torque for optimal traction during acceleration. In situations such as acceleration from a stop or exiting corners, Performance Traction Management regulates torque delivery for the best possible launch.

Performance Traction Management uses the same sort of electronics as stability control programs such as Cadillac’s StabiliTrak system, but applies it in a different manner. Rather than monitoring and controlling wheel slip to assist in stopping or slowing the car, PTM regulates torque delivery to instantly match the available tire grip for maximum acceleration.

CTS-V also includes sophisticated braking and tire systems, in partnership with two companies renown for high-performance technology: Brembo and Michelin. Brembo brakes are at all four corners and include powerful, six-piston calipers in the front and four-piston calipers in the rear. Michelin worked with Cadillac engineers to develop its acclaimed Pilot Sport 2 (PS2) summer tire for CTS-V and its 19-inch wheels.

And, of course, there is the matter of power. It has increased nearly 35 percent for the ’09 CTS-V, via a new 6.2L LSA supercharged V-8 engine generating an estimated 550 hp (410 kW) and 550 lb.-ft. (745 Nm) of torque. The engine delivers this power with remarkable refinement. A sixth-generation Eaton supercharger minimizes the added noise previously associated with supercharged engines, and tightly controls intake air temperature for optimal performance.

Transmission choices include either a six-speed manual or an exclusive, six-speed automatic with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters. It is the first automatic offered on the CTS-V.

Accentuated design elements

The 2009 CTS-V extends Cadillac’s acclaimed design language, both inside and out. The V-Series includes all the elements of the CTS sport sedan’s well received cabin, while adding some elegant and purposeful accents.

V-Series will offer Recaro performance driving seats, providing excellent support for spirited driving and adding to the luxurious and purposeful interior. These new, 14-way adjustable performance seats include pneumatic bolster controls in the seat cushion and backrest.

A microfiber material is added to the steering wheel, seats and shifter, providing the soft feel and luxurious appearance of suede without suede’s inherent drawbacks of difficult care and moisture sensitivity. These accents on the steering wheel, seat inserts and shifter are elegant to the touch and help support high-performance driving.

The car’s integrated center stack is trimmed with a new Obsidian material that is also applied to the center console and door trim. Just like every CTS, the V-Series includes a hand-stitched instrument panel, door trim and center console. Leading-edge infotainment features, including a 40-gigabyte hard drive, advanced navigation system with a “pop-up” screen and Bose digital surround audio, extend to the V-Series, as well as factory-installed Bluetooth capability.

The exterior of the new CTS-V amplifies the assertive stance and elegant details of the standard car, and communicates the car’s remarkable capabilities. The dihedral Cadillac grille is larger to enable more air intake and features a satin finish. The raised hood encompasses the supercharged engine, and new front and rear fascias identify the vehicle as a V-Series. The car’s 19-inch wheels enhance its stance on the road.

The founding member of the V-Series, CTS-V was initially offered in 2004 and sold primarily in North America through the 2007 model year. The supercharged STS-V and XLR-V were added in 2006 to make the V-Series an exclusive trio of models all capable of zero-to-60 acceleration in less than five seconds with enhanced overall performance and luxury features
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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Numbersix) »« »

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Wow.

It's all about weight management and suspension tuning with this car now. 550hp pretty much takes care of any competitors in that department.

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She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Numbersix) »« »

Not to mention 550 torks.
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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Numbersix) »« »

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Wow.

It's all about weight management and suspension tuning with this car now. 550hp pretty much takes care of any competitors in that department.

At first I saw 550hp and was like whoa and than I saw the weight and was like whoa

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Well the weight is right there in the release:
Curb weight (lb / kg):
manual: 4200 / 1905 (est)
automatic: 4300 / 1950 (est)

Oh, and even GM is blowing the embargo, as it says it shoulda been released the 14th. Should be a monster!



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

Try 4200 lb manual and 4300 automatic. That's a little more weight than i was hoping, but with that kind of power it should have no problem putting up incredible numbers. In fact i think it's overkill. One thing i'm wondering is will this car be pitted against compact sports sedans like the M3, C63, IS-F or will it compete with the Mid-sizer like M5, E63, and RS6? Another thing is how much will it cost?
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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (spidy) »« »

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At first I saw 550hp and was like whoa and than I saw the weight and was like whoa

Where did you see the weight?



Quote, originally posted by BlackDevilCar »
She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (koko12) »« »

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Another thing is how much will it cost?

I certainly don't think it will be any less than $60k..if anything $59,600 base.

But also wonder about GG tax.

We'll see.




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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

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Where did you see the weight?

Scroll down, look under "DIMENSIONS" Curb weight listed as 4200lb for manual and 4300lbs for automatic.

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Try 4200 lb manual and 4300 automatic. That's a little more weight than i was hoping, but with that kind of power it should have no problem putting up incredible numbers. In fact i think it's overkill. One thing i'm wondering is will this car be pitted against compact sports sedans like the M3, C63, IS-F or will it compete with the Mid-sizer like M5, E63, and RS6? Another thing is how much will it cost?

Key competitors:

BMW M-5, Mercedes Benz E55 AMG, Mercedes Benz E63 AMG

Is this engine the same engine thats in the upcoming ZR1?



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Numbersix) »« »

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Wow.

It's all about weight management and suspension tuning with this car now. 550hp pretty much takes care of any competitors in that department.

Hopefully it will be able to put the power down, Cadillac better installed some Z06 size tires in that thing. If i'm not mistaken a 400 hp GTO wasn't any faster than a 280 hp G35 or a 250 hp 330.

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Hopefully it will be able to put the power down, Cadillac better installed some Z06 size tires in that thing. If i'm not mistaken a 400 hp GTO wasn't any faster than a 280 hp G35 or a 250 hp 330.

You're mistaken a 400HP Goat was running lower 13's



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She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

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I certainly don't think it will be any less than $60k..if anything $59,600 base.

But also wonder about GG tax.

We'll see.

I'm thinking it will be closer to $80K. A Z06 which has a lot less comtent and is far less complex already cost above $70K

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

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I certainly don't think it will be any less than $60k..if anything $59,600 base.

But also wonder about GG tax.

We'll see.

That would be a bargain! I saw the stats and wondered about the price myself. I kept seeing the number 75,000 floating around in my head. 60k would be pretty nice. It's not like the "base" car will be stripped out. As is the current trend these days, I wouldn't be surprised if nav is the only option.



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (koko12) »« »

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I'm thinking it will be closer to $80K. A Z06 which has a lot less comtent and is far less complex already cost above $70K

The STS-V is $80,690....the CTS-V will not be $80k.





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I'm thinking it will be closer to $80K. A Z06 which has a lot less comtent and is far less complex already cost above $70K


A $80K CTS-V would DOA, high 60's is the safe bet

A $70K Z06 has an aluminum frame and carbon fiber front fenders



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She took the picture.

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Is this engine the same engine thats in the upcoming ZR1?

yes, I slightly detuned version. I wonder if that engine is going to find its way into the Camaro



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

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A $80K CTS-V would DOA, high 60's is the safe bet

A $70K Z06 has an aluminum frame and carbon fiber front fenders


High $60s would sound about right to me for a starting point, with loaded ones pushing $80k.



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yes, I slightly detuned version. I wonder if that engine is going to find its way into the Camaro

Its a safe bet, Camaro SS on line one



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She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

Very cool! I wonder if they're going to improve the manual transmission, apparently right now it's not so hot and actually rubbery-feeling?



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (justanotherusername) »« »

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High $60s would sound about right to me for a starting point, with loaded ones pushing $80k.

If its like the other V models, it really won't have much in the way of options (if any)...let alone $10k in options.

I'm guessing mid $60k's with a possible $2k or so in GG tax...putting it in the high $60k's before sales tax.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

This car will be nuts, Big, heavy, but very fast. I'm guessing 65-70K.



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (DoubleNaught) »« »

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A $80K CTS-V would DOA, high 60's is the safe bet

A $70K Z06 has an aluminum frame and carbon fiber front fenders

Add the fact that the majority of the car is derived from a normal CTS giving it greater volume discount vs the Corvette. I'm going to guess mid 60s, Say 64,995 out the door before tax.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

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The STS-V is $80,690....the CTS-V will not be $80k.

a STS starts at $43k, but that doesn't stop Cadillac from pricing a well optioned CTS at close to $50K. Also the STS-V has significantly less hp.

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Awesome! Can't wait to see it. Cadillac is back in a big way!




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Not to mention 550 torks.

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Add the fact that the majority of the car is derived from a normal CTS giving it greater volume discount vs the Corvette. I'm going to guess mid 60s, Say 64,995 out the door before tax.


I will say loaded to the gills for $70K



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She took the picture.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (koko12) »« »

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a STS starts at $43k, but that doesn't stop Cadillac from pricing a well optioned CTS at close to $50K. Also the STS-V has significantly less hp.

You can rationalize it however you please, but I think most believe (including myself) that the CTS-V will not cost $80k.

That aside, it doesn't matter....I don't think at almost $70k (if it comes in at that) its going to become a CL favorite anytime soon.



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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

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You can rationalize it however you please, but I think most believe (including myself) that the CTS-V will not cost $80k.

That aside, it doesn't matter....I don't think at almost $70k (if it comes in at that) its going to become a CL favorite anytime soon.

Of course it won't cost 80k, it lacks soul and a badge that comes from Europe.






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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (Beltfed) »« »

hope your right, that way i'll be just a little closer to the almost nonexisting possibility of one day getting one. Although i probably stand a better chance of getting hit by lightning.

Anyways, i wanna see some photos already. I picture it being completley blacked-out and evil looking.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (koko12) »« »

Man, that's a porker! That's just a few pounds shy of my SRX! I'm sure the extra horsepower will make up for it in acceleration, but the handling has got to suffer with all that extra weight. There's only so much suspension and tires can mask.

It makes the 4000 lb G8 (which is bigger, btw) look like a lightweight.

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 Re: 2009 NAIAS: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (nopal 6.0) »« »

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Of course it won't cost 80k, it lacks soul and a badge that comes from Europe.


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