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 Motive First Drive: 2008 Pontiac G8« »

Thanks to the carpe diem attitude of the Internet, you've probably already caught wind of the new Pontiac G8's awesomeness. You've been told that the Aussies have, like their toilet bowls, put a new spin on the classic rear-drive American muscle sedan, just as Ze Germans did at Chrysler just a few years back. The G8 didn't draw the short straw like the Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300, which ride on previous-generation Mercedes-Benz E-class components. Instead, this Pontiac rides on a brand new platform from GM's Holden division. And because the 2004 GTO was a decent car buried beneath a jelly bean shape, the G8 is set to be the most memorable Pontiac in the lifetime of anyone born after 1970, a toy for a new generation to tell its kids about in twenty years...

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Wow, that interior looks great! Dare I say that the center stack is somewhat Audi-esque....




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Car looks absolutely amazing. Bring on the GXP!



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I wonder how their gonna lease out?

Might hold out on my next used car purchase if the leases on these aren't too bad.



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Maybe I can talk my gf into one



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That interior above is not the production model. Notice the leather stitching on the dash? The G8 is offered w/ black or black w/ red inserts interior only.



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 Re: Motive First Drive: 2008 Pontiac G8 (features@motivemag) »« »

such a great car. I can't wait for the G8 GXP!




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I'm about to get on the plane to go drive it... I'm guessing from reading the review that there's no track time at the Media Preview.

*tosses helmet out of bag*

*thinks*

*puts helmet back in bag*

*makes plans to wear it on road to upset fellow drivers*



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I can't wait for a shot behind the wheel in this car.



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I'm about to get on the plane to go drive it... I'm guessing from reading the review that there's no track time at the Media Preview.

*tosses helmet out of bag*

*thinks*

*puts helmet back in bag*

*makes plans to wear it on road to upset fellow drivers*


Know what would really upset them? Show up wearing nothing but the helmet...



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Are those going to be the only wheel option, those five spokes?

When is the GXP version coming out?

I dig this car just not in that stock form.


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Wow, that interior looks great! Dare I say that the center stack is somewhat Audi-esque....

That was my thought as well. The interior shots from the review remind me a lot of my previous car, an Audi A4.

The gauge set up is also very reminiscent of VW/Audi.



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Are those going to be the only wheel option, those five spokes.

When is the GXP version coming out.

I dig this car just not in that stock form.

I'd probably opt for the 18 inchers from the factory, and choose my own aftermarket wheels (which would likely be lighter and better looking). That being said, I don't think the wheels look bad, just not very creative.



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Know what would really upset them? Show up wearing nothing but the helmet...

Don't give him any ideas.



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Grand Prixes

I've always seen the plural "Grands Prix." Is it different when referring to the car?



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Know what would really upset them? Show up wearing nothing but the helmet...

Oh! And cowboy boots! Maybe a cape!





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I've always seen the plural "Grands Prix." Is it different when referring to the car?

Yup - proper names are always pluralized as a unit with -s or -es. Always. Multiple focal points can be called "foci," but multiple compact Fords are always "Focuses." Multiple F1 races are "grands prix," but multiple midsize Pontiacs are "Grand Prixes."



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so is it going to have the wheel gap in these pictures or the wheel gap in the C&D pictures?

the C&D test car has the 19" wheels... they even made note of the "Germanic" wheel gap in the C&D article...

Modified by MatchStick at 11:01 AM 2-28-2008

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 Re: Motive First Drive: 2008 Pontiac G8 (features@motivemag) »« »

With HIDs, Navigation, and a new hood this car would be perfect. to GM.



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so is it going to have the wheel gap in these pictures or the wheel gap in the C&D pictures?

the C&D test car has the 19" wheels... they even made note of the "Germanic" wheel gap in the C&D article...


Modified by MatchStick at 11:01 AM 2-28-2008

Those look like two completely different wheels.

The answer could be "both."



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Those look like two completely different wheels.

The answer could be "both."

yeah, it looks like maybe the top one is the standard 18" wheels, and, as I said, the C&D test car has 19" wheels per the article...

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when does this car come to market?



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It's amazing how things change. I have always hated Pontiacs...if for no other reason it was because of their ugly curvy ribbed shapes. But this car confirms it...Pontiac is back baby! Man that's a good looking sedan.



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Wow, that interior looks great! Dare I say that the center stack is somewhat Audi-esque....

The G8 may have lower grade materials in person but I find that interior absolutely spectacular compared to regular GM fare. The design is simple but works well. And check out those gauges.

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yeah, it looks like maybe the top one is the standard 18" wheels, and, as I said, the C&D test car has 19" wheels per the article...

Here's a shot from the event with the base wheels:




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I believe gm is back! This is a beautiful car inside/out, along with the new malibu! I hope to see many domestics on the road again! Now they should start to concentrate on their compacts to introduce young buyers to the company and start an evolution.
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The "hard plastic" comments, in the article, are curious. There are certain parts of an interior, which I'd expect to be "hard", like the center console (which usually is black, wood-grained, or painted silver), that will see the most abuse. Door handles, vents, stalk controls, steering columns, gear selector (and surrounding trim), and the skins/trim enclosing the mounting points and bottoms of seats are other areas I'd expect to find hard plastic. Is it unacceptable for any car (no matter the price) to have any percentage of hard plastic used in it's interior? I have honestly been in cars that have been slammed for having "too much" hard plastic, and have struggled to find the alleged flaw. Likewise, I have been in cars that are universally praised, and have wondered why the press never mentions the "hard plastic" in any of them.



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I'm about to get on the plane to go drive it... I'm guessing from reading the review that there's no track time at the Media Preview.

*tosses helmet out of bag*

*thinks*

*puts helmet back in bag*

*makes plans to wear it on road to upset fellow drivers*






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I really, really, REALLY like that car! I'd like to see how bad the plastics are first hand, because they look really tolerable from the pictures at least (not trying to argue here).

It would be nice to dump the hood and add NAV/HIDs. I do like the gauge and center stack setup. I've yet to own a GM product, but after missing out on the GTO I think it is time to take the plunge.

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I am slowly falling in love with this car.



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It's a beauty. I am suprised about the lack of HIDs though. One would think great lighting would be important in Australia. Even Ford has finally realized that they need to offer things like HID's, Nav, etc. Hopefuly there will at least be an aftermarket HID kit, or Nav unit that will fit nicely.

I object to the title of the article though. American saw a great Pontiac in the GTO. Just because some folks thought its styling was bland, doesn't make it any less of a car. Also, there seems to be no shortage of Firebird fans out there.

Modified by SVTJayC at 9:25 AM 2-28-2008

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The "hard plastic" comments, in the article, are curious. There are certain parts of an interior, which I'd expect to be "hard", like the center console (which usually is black, wood-grained, or painted silver), that will see the most abuse. Door handles, vents, stalk controls, steering columns, gear selector (and surrounding trim), and the skins/trim enclosing the mounting points and bottoms of seats are other areas I'd expect to find hard plastic. Is it unacceptable for any car (no matter the price) to have any percentage of hard plastic used in it's interior? I have honestly been in cars that have been slammed for having "too much" hard plastic, and have struggled to find the alleged flaw. Likewise, I have been in cars that are universally praised, and have wondered why the press never mentions the "hard plastic" in any of them.

No doubt QFT.

I am sooooo F'ing sick of hearing "hard plastic" in any review. You put the soft coverings over places where the occupant normally touches (door trim panel where arm/elbow may rest, center console rest pad if exists, and more importantly... the LOWER half of the dash in case of accidents... NOT the freakin' TOP, where airbags are your buffer.

It's as if reviewers just NEED to complain about something, so they automatically reach for the "Hard Plastic" card.

Here's a new idea: How about putting on your maintenance hat and critiquing something that matters like maybe the difficulty of some simple DIY maintenance. There are any number of things that would be interesting, but I guess it is a reflection of the new culture of enthusiast dash strokers.



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Cars like this are making me reconsider my attitude toward personal transportation. That is to say, it's getting harder to justify enduring my oh-so-boring-but-frugal Civic - which I purchased because my previous DD, a Mazda6, was a gas hog by comparison. And I won't lie - I get a wee bit of smug satisfaction knowing how much I am saving on fuel with my Honda -no matter how painfully plain it is as a car.

But then...a car like this comes around. I can easily afford it - and I wonder, and dream, and conveniently ignore the lousy MPG numbers. Who the eff cares? -- it's a 361HP gorgeous beast for around $30k!!!!

Want.it.bad.

So, uh...when does this show up at dealers again?





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