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 Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept« »

It's morning at a retired airport ground that adjoins the Sebring International Raceway. I'm in town for the American Le Mans Series' 12 Hours of Sebring race, and word from Audi was that we might take a quick spin in their diesel-powered, mid-engined R8 supercar shown just last week in Geneva and planned for display here at the race tomorrow.

The crimson R8 V12 TDI "Le Mans" sits before me on the tarmac, awaiting some quick frottage — just enough to see the potential, though not enough to jeopardize Audi's one-off prototype. The car is still a concept, which means two things: First, it's hasn't undergone the battery of tests that production cars do and, second, its build cost was more than the $1.2 million my insurance company says my life is worth. "Nothing over 50," say the Audi's handlers. Good idea...

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That thing is fricken crazy
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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (DarkNeo) »« »

If I hit the jackpot, this is the lone supercar that would be in my garage. Just does it for me.



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (SleeperPassat) »« »

v.g. read



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (ratdub) »« »

The Nissan GTR will eat that car for breakfast!



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The Nissan GTR will eat that car for breakfast!

Maybe it would. I'd still take the Audi.



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (8v_gti777) »« »

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That thing is fricken crazy

No. It's like freakin' craaaaaaaaaaazy, man!


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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (KARMANN_20V) »« »

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The Nissan GTR will eat that car for breakfast!




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But that would only happen in my magical dreamworld, where VW dealers were a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-like experience, everything had 4Motion and only cost $12K, and the ORLY owls were my co-pilots.


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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (DarkNeo) »« »

Did they really repaint the car red between the Detroit and Geneva shows?



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (KARMANN_20V) »« »

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The Nissan GTR will eat that car for breakfast!

Point?



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (features@motivemag) »« »

Grrrrrreat. Another answer to a question that nobody asked. Ridiculous.

The S4 new V6 bi-turbo would make more sense....



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (Saintor) »« »

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Grrrrrreat. Another answer to a question that nobody asked. Ridiculous.

The S4 new V6 bi-turbo would make more sense....

Same thing for Toyota making Lexus LS600h. These cars are more like Halo car or tech showcase. Toyota take pride for their Hybrid Synergy and Audi for their TDI.



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (Saintor) »« »

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Grrrrrreat. Another answer to a question that nobody asked. Ridiculous.

The S4 new V6 bi-turbo would make more sense....

Actually, it's you that just doesn't get it.

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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (Shomegrown) »« »

There is nothing to get, except a pointless showcase that VW/Audi fanboys will 'want' ... for no reason, just for the 'cool' factor.



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (KARMANN_20V) »« »

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The Nissan GTR will eat that car for breakfast!

Yup. I don't know which one I'd take though...



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (Saintor) »« »

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There is nothing to get, except a pointless showcase that VW/Audi fanboys will 'want' ... for no reason, just for the 'cool' factor.

It's nothing to do with fanbois either. It's a showcase of diesel technology, nothing more. It's to show the vast majority of people who feel diesel is loud, rough, and suited only for tractors that the technology exists to make smooth, quiet, clean, and even sporty diesel powerplants.

Considering diesel cars make up roughly half of Audi's sales, there are a whole lot of people who would disagree with your "pointless" claim.

It's a design study. It's not meant to sell in high numbers, if at all. It's not meant to beat cars like the GTR, Z06, or 911. It's meant to prove a point.

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It's not meant to beat cars like the GTR, Z06, or 911. It's meant to prove a point.

WHAT point exactly. That it takes +4 cyl. to a diesel to match a gas V8?.



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WHAT point exactly. That it takes +4 cyl. to a diesel to match a gas V8?.

Cylinder count doesn't matter in terms of power. Displacement and mass air flow does. They could have done the same thing with 8 or 6 cylinders too.

Heck, I worked on a 4 cylinder 5.0 liter diesel that produces 750 horsepower.

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In 200 years when crude oil has all dried up someone will be able to pull that R8 out of a museum fill it up with bio-diesel and go for a spirited drive. Not so sure they'll be able to do that in the GTR :lol:



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There is nothing to get, except a pointless showcase that VW/Audi fanboys will 'want' ... for no reason, just for the 'cool' factor.

Is there any point to either your E46 or E90 having any more horsepower than is necessary to keep up with the traffic and maintain speed on the highway? Is there any point to all of the electronic gadgets both cars contain?
Is there any point to driving anything other than a base model Kia?



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WHAT point exactly. That it takes +4 cyl. to a diesel to match a gas V8?.

you really are stupid arent you?

name 1 other diesel sports car/super car that isnt the R10.



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you really are stupid arent you?

name 1 other diesel sports car/super car that isnt the R10.


If you don't have anything else than childish personal attack, SHUT YOUR MOUTH UP, imbecile.



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If you don't have anything else than childish personal attack, SHUT YOUR MOUTH UP, imbecile.

well, when you cant grasp the idea that this car has no real point except to demonstrate the diesel technology audi can place into what some consider a "supercar", i think the childish personal attacks have merit.



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But that would only happen in my magical dreamworld, where VW dealers were a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-like experience, everything had 4Motion and only cost $12K, and the ORLY owls were my co-pilots.


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well, when you cant grasp the idea that this car has no real point except to demonstrate the diesel technology audi can place into what some consider a "supercar", i think the childish personal attacks have merit.

You continue to show your imbecility. Not good.



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You continue to show your imbecility. Not good.

haha ok...

you lose.



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In 200 years when crude oil has all dried up someone will be able to pull that R8 out of a museum fill it up with bio-diesel and go for a spirited drive. Not so sure they'll be able to do that in the GTR :lol:

If 5 year old Audis are horribly unreliable, I could only imagine the global effort it would take to get and keep a 200 year old Audi running.



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (Saintor) »« »

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You continue to show your imbecility. Not good.

Except you still have yet to substantiate your claim or respond in a reasonable, respectable manner to his point.

I suppose you probably don't like that it would be faster than your BMWs. Also, your signature contradicts your claim.

It's sort of supposed to be a production interpretation of the R10. It could also theoretically be employed in a GT1 or GT2 application. What do you think the M1 was for BMW?

Modified by Entwerfer des Audis at 12:37 PM 3-16-2008



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If 5 year old Audis are horribly unreliable, I could only imagine the global effort it would take to get and keep a 200 year old Audi running.

Thats some sig material right there.



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If 5 year old Audis are horribly unreliable, I could only imagine the global effort it would take to get and keep a 200 year old Audi running.

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Except you still have yet to substantiate your claim or respond in a reasonable, respectable manner to his point.

I suppose you probably don't like that it would be faster than your BMWs. Also, your signature contradicts your claim.

It's sort of supposed to be a production interpretation of the R10. It could also theoretically be employed in a GT1 or GT2 application. What do you think the M1 was for BMW?

shhhhhh, youll upset the idiots. the whole point of this car is to show off what audi has learned from its R10. fast, clean, DIESEL supercar. its a technology showcase.



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shhhhhh, youll upset the idiots. the whole point of this car is to show off what audi has learned from its R10. fast, clean, DIESEL supercar. its a technology showcase.

True, it could be employed as a GT1, though.



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True, it could be employed as a GT1, though.

absolutely



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2008 Audi R8 V12 TDI Le Mans Concept (bluerabbit0886) »« »

A great car, but i undestand a sportcar diesel, the engine diesel is for economy.

A car valorated in over US$100,000 for economy fuel? the people with money for buy a supercar dont think in fuel. Its ridiculous!

And i love the design of R8, but a TDI with that specifications havent sense.





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