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 Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI« »

The different classifications of idiots on American roads are as countless as Mini Cooper options, Mustang special editions, or the list of ways you might die — which, ironically, includes idiot drivers. Among our favorites are the guy we once saw playing a trumpet while driving, but that was before hypermiling came on the scene.

Hypermiling, of course, is the practice of being a self-centered, traffic-jamming *****. It also supposedly saves gas. We'll address the techniques later on, as there are many. Most hypermilers start with a vehicle that's already efficient, like a Toyota Prius or a Honda Insight, and the most dedicated members of this cult have claimed EPA-shattering numbers of over 100 mpg. Most say they see an improvement of 30 to 40 percent over the figures published for their cars...

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 Re: Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI (features@motivemag) »« »

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Driving fast, while still dangerous, fuel-swilling, and illegal, doesn't impact other drivers

While I think the hypermilers are a bunch of obsessed wankers, I take issue with this statement. The fact that it's fuel-swilling -does- impact other drivers; you're doing your own tiny part to drive up the cost of fuel, and spewing extra nasty crap into the air that all the other drivers have to breathe. (Unlike say, the Stig, most drivers -do- have to breathe.)





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 Re: Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI (features@motivemag) »« »

I like it when you guys go out and actually do what the rest of us just sit around BS'ing about over some beers.



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I can't even imagine how much hate a hypermiling H2 would attract. You're probably lucky you didn't get shot.



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Back in the city, I'm battling with an average-fuel-economy readout that really wants to drop below 13.0 for the first time in the five miles I've covered, and the guy in the 5-series behind me is motioning with one finger that he wants me to throw in the towel. He uses a turn lane to cut around me, his engine bouncing off the limiter. Does the gas he just wasted count against my average?





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with the differences between your recorded MPG and the car's readout being so big, is there a chance that when you're filling back up, the pump's auto shutoff is different each time? Just wondering, because I never knew how it was triggered, and after I hit that auto shutoff, i can usually fit another gallon or two in the tank.



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Great article, actually had me laughing out loud.



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I am glad I didn't see you when I am on 290!

Good write up



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What's better, I don't feel as guilty as I did in the Hummer, despite the fact that my technique would give an EPA agent a heart attack. By turning the throttle into a light switch and passing slower drivers in turn lanes, I'm doing nothing more than getting out of the way of everyone else. By blocking traffic with the Hummer I was ruining the mornings of countless city drivers.

Amen.

I had this same scenario this weekend. 2 seperate instances of someone doing 5-10 under the limit on a limited passing rural highway. Just held everyone up and pissed them off (well, at least me). When my chance in line came up, I dropped it in 3rd, they disappeared in the horizon.

Why can't these people just move over and let the train of cars behind them pass?



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Back in the city, I'm battling with an average-fuel-economy readout that really wants to drop below 13.0 for the first time in the five miles I've covered, and the guy in the 5-series behind me is motioning with one finger that he wants me to throw in the towel. He uses a turn lane to cut around me, his engine bouncing off the limiter. Does the gas he just wasted count against my average?

Far from wasting it, sounds as if he put it to good use.



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Great article.



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First Motive article I've read all the way through... very entertaining!



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What was the point of this article?

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What was the point of this article?

To entertain?

I enjoyed it. I'm pretty surprised that all those accessories weight so much. That's one heavy spare tire!



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Amen.

I had this same scenario this weekend. 2 seperate instances of someone doing 5-10 under the limit on a limited passing rural highway. Just held everyone up and pissed them off (well, at least me). When my chance in line came up, I dropped it in 3rd, they disappeared in the horizon.

Why can't these people just move over and let the train of cars behind them pass?

Well, it is a speed limit, not a speed requirement.

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Well, it is a speed limit, not a speed requirement.

I was waiting for that, lol.



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 Re: Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI (features@motivemag) »« »

"Moving at an embarrassing 45 mph in the right lane, I've managed to turn myself into a distasteful amalgam of a big-SUV driver and smug, economy-obsessed a**wipe, simultaneously joining two gangs I never thought I'd run with."

That article was LOL funny.



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Very interesting article
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Still trying to figure out why anyone would buy an H2

As much as people rag on it, they still are better off-road than most other SUV's and it's not like it's a lot more expensive or worse in FE than a Range Rover. The modern Range Rovers aren't exactly offroad legends anyway, like the old ones from the 1980's were. You can fit a lot in an H2 and use it for most anything other than genuine hardcore offroading.



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As much as people rag on it, they still are better off-road than most other SUV's and it's not like it's a lot more expensive or worse in FE than a Range Rover.

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 Re: Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI (Turq) »« »

While i love cars as much as the next guy, i find that "in the current climate" i have to save money wherever i can. My commute used to cost me a fortune until i slowed A LITTLE. I have since cut my yearly fuel bill in half and arrive in work less stressed. More money to spend on more fun things!
Anyway, whats wrong with using less fuel? I thought we were sending our hard earned to foreign countries to fuel our cars. That can't be good?

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I just read this story for the first time wondering where in the hell in all the country that gas was still retailing at $4.59/gal.

Way to be back from the dead.

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Well, it is a speed limit, not a speed requirement.

Wrong, Illinois highways have a 35 mph minimum.



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with the differences between your recorded MPG and the car's readout being so big, is there a chance that when you're filling back up, the pump's auto shutoff is different each time? Just wondering, because I never knew how it was triggered, and after I hit that auto shutoff, i can usually fit another gallon or two in the tank.

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As much as people rag on it, they still are better off-road than most other SUV's and it's not like it's a lot more expensive or worse in FE than a Range Rover. The modern Range Rovers aren't exactly offroad legends anyway, like the old ones from the 1980's were. You can fit a lot in an H2 and use it for most anything other than genuine hardcore offroading.

They have impressive approach numbers due to the short overhangs, but are overweight Suburbans in the end. The Suburban at least maintains it's true functionality in cargo volume.

No stock 4x4 is going to hold up to every trail and condition, but the H2 is solidly in Poser-status.



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Reminds me of the Top Gear mpg show down. With the Prius going all out and the V8 M3 keeping pace



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Hypermiling, of course, is the practice of being a self-centered, traffic-jamming *****.

Well, it depends what you mean by hypermiling. Drafting trucks, coasting, and running stop signs are all irresponsible and dangerous, and driving half the posted speed limit isn't much better. But taking your foot off the gas when there's a red light ahead? Some call that hypermiling; I just call it common sense.
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But taking your foot off the gas when there's a red light ahead? Some call that hypermiling; I just call it common sense.

Morons call that hypermiling. You should not accelerate or maintain your speed to a red-light. I agree that it's common sense



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 Re: Motive Versus: Mini meets Maxi - Hypermiling a Hummer, Mistreating a MINI (features@motivemag) »« »

Weird about their fuel economy meters being so far out of whack... I've checked my A4's average fuel economy meter against my own odometer, and liters put back into the tank... and the two numbers are within 0.2L per 100kms of each other.

I've heard certain cars are really bad at their averaging when they are stopped tho. Some cars read high, other cars read low... My Audi is measuring consumption as computed by the ECU and kilometers driven as calculated by the odometer.... it doesn't get more accurate... I wonder how other manufacturers do it that give wrong readings.

Still ... 8-10mpg in a Hummer? Wow... that's pathetic. 2 days at a race track with my A4 = 7-8mpg... but I had my foot to the floor the whole time, or it was idling to cool the engine down faster (rad fans working, waterpump pumping).

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Well, it is a speed limit, not a speed requirement.

Actually, in some jurisdictions it is a ticketable offense to drive 10 mph or lower than the posted speed limit.

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