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See above It does what it says on the tin. I could actually try to take some video of it in action later if there's any interest.

Would be very interested in seeing that video. Keep us updated.

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It tells me that my 1.8T is faster than my buddy's Ferrari. Must be the driver.

That is because the 1.8T nevar looses!



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 Re: (Chrissy) »« »

Got my iPhone last night, this thing rocks. Do we have a forum for apps?



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In all fairness, if this was posted in the MKIII/MKIV/MKV Forums, you'd probably get a much better reception. If the cover photo was dripping with HDR, you could probably hear the man-goo smacking their monitors.

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Weird it crashes on me when trying to see the results and when trying to add a car.

Anyone else having issues? Anyone know how to get my money back? I don't mind paying for something that works, but for me it doesn't.



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It must suck to be G-Tech right now. Their entire business had just evaporated over night. I've been playing around with the AppStore the last couple of days and it is definitely a disruptive technology. No more crappy Java Mobile apps on locked cellphones.

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Got my iPhone last night, this thing rocks. Do we have a forum for apps?

somewhat
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 Re: (tom@motivemag) »« »

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Anyone else having issues? Anyone know how to get my money back? I don't mind paying for something that works, but for me it doesn't.

Mine still won't do the calibration stage properly, which is a little bit of a pain. Anyhoo, if it's anything like the rest of the iTunes Store, app refunds are handled by Apple, so just use the regular iTunes support page.

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Would be very interested in seeing that video. Keep us updated.

Cool, I'll grab one tonight



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It must suck to be G-Tech right now. Their entire business had just evaporated over night. I've been playing around with the AppStore the last couple of days and it is definitely a disruptive technology. No more crappy Java Mobile apps on locked cellphones.


Modified by climacus at 12:19 PM 7-30-2008

Not really. Most people don't have an iphone and the new Gtech's have a lot of features this doesn't.

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Ok, I just did impromptu testing between the Dynolicious and one of our VBOX units. Unfortunately the point and shoot camera focused on the background in this shot of the setup instead of the equipment, but you get the gist of it:

1 foot rollout was turned off on both units and the VBOX data is raw (non-corrected). The car used was an Audi S5 and I didn't bother beating it to death on the launches.

Here are photos of each of the data screens:

In 10 runs back and forth to 60mph, the average difference between the two units was .45 of a second with the VBOX delivering faster numbers. However the discrepancy on different runs between the two fluctuated from a .24 difference on one run to a .65 difference on others. We dropped the highest and lowest fluctuations and averaged the remainder.

It is important to note that the VBOX is using GPS data *and* yaw sensor data to achieve its figures. The Dynolicious software is only using yaw data from the iPhone. A base level VBOX Performance Box costs $499. The unit we used originally started as a VBOX Driftbox but was upgraded to a VBOX MINI later in its life. Most all of the major magazines use Racelogic VBOX hardware for their performance testing. The units used vary from simple Performance Box units to full blown $10,000+ VBOX III data recorders. VBOX certifies the accuracy of their units to be within +/- .01 kph of actual speed. The magazines also correct all their acceleration figures for weather and altitude. Plus they usually factor in a 1 foot rollout (as used on a 1/4 mile dragstrip) into acceleration figures which generally results in a .3 second less 0-60 time. Our opinion is the the 1 foot rollout is fine for 1/4 mile times as that's how it is done at the strip. However subtracting the 1 foot rollout from a basic 0-60mph time is just making the figures even more impressive (and unattainable by most people that buy the car).

The VBOX unit had fairly consistent runs across all 10 passes. The Dynolicious software varied a bit more between runs.

Draw your own conclusions.

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 Re: (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

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In 10 runs back and forth to 60mph, the average difference between the two units was .45 of a second with the VBOX delivering faster numbers. However the discrepancy on different runs between the two fluctuated from a .24 difference on one run to a .65 difference on others. We dropped the highest and lowest fluctuations and averaged the remainder.

All said and done, a $13 piece of software for a device that many people have... roughly a 10% accuracy discrepancy in the *worst case* doesn't seem that bad for most people who will be using it on their cars.

Would I use it if I were writing an article in a national publication? Well, no.

Would I use it if I just wanted to play around with my personal car? Hell yes!



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All said and done, a $13 piece of software for a device that many people have... roughly a 10% accuracy discrepancy in the *worst case* doesn't seem that bad for most people who will be using it on their cars.

Would I use it if I were writing an article in a national publication? Well, no.

Would I use it if I just wanted to play around with my personal car? Hell yes!

x2.

I don't see the VBOX hooking up to your ipod intigration kit and playing your favorite songs either .



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 Re: (jamie@vwvortex) »« »

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Draw your own conclusions.

Conclusion: For $13 you can't beat that. . Gotta pick that up when I get home tonight.



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I picked it up, but I haven't had a chance to play with it, as the wheel bearing took a dump in my BMW. I was looking forward to that 9s 0-60 displayed.



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no problems on the one i used.
flat surface is the only way to get it close.
we figured ( in our 3 "tests") its was attleast 95 percent accurate to 60



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (tom@motivemag) »« »

HAH! Apple was smart to throw an accelerometer in this thing.



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (RogueTDI) »« »

hmm...this might be the first application I buy.



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$13 app FTW



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Pretty cool to see the iphone get this app..
FYI any of you out there with a Nokia N95. There's an app called Tempes GT wich pretty much does the same thing. Also check out Racechrono, a gps based lap timer for tracks like laguna seca etc..



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This looks like it was taken out near rt. 53 east of I-355 in Lombard...

I should totally go catch Jamie driving. As an added bonus, I could inform TCL once and for all of Jamie's gender On second thought, some things are better left a mystery.



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (tom@motivemag) »« »

How do I know if my iPod touch supports this?



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (Jetty!) »« »

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How do I know if my iPod touch supports this?

You just need the 2.0 Software. But the Apps store will say what it's compatible with. IE Some apps are 3G phone only because they tap into GPS functionality.



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You just need the 2.0 Software. But the Apps store will say what it's compatible with. IE Some apps are 3G phone only because they tap into GPS functionality.

So basically I have to pay another $10 + $13 if I want this application.



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (Jetty!) »« »

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So basically I have to pay another $10 + $13 if I want this application.

That still seems like a pretty good deal to me when something gets within a few percentage points of a $500 piece of hardware .



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All said and done, a $13 piece of software for a device that many people have...

Except many people don't have it.

But still sounds like neat software.



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Now I just want an iPhone that much more.



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Okay, just did my first run on a freeway on-ramp. I did not run it at 100% but I hit 60mph (no rollout) in 5.23 seconds and the 1/4 in 14.24@101mph. It sad I had a max of .97g for acceleration.



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 Re: Turn Your iPhone into a Mobile Dyno (1_slow_mk3) »« »

software seems to be accurate.

Ran the quarter mile in 17.4 with 3 people in the car. He ran on the track about 14. Numbers are not exact but it seemed to be accurate




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Okay, just did my first run on a freeway on-ramp. I did not run it at 100% but I hit 60mph (no rollout) in 5.23 seconds and the 1/4 in 14.24@101mph. It sad I had a max of .97g for acceleration.

holy crap, that's the fastest H2 I've ever seen!



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I downloaded the Dynolicious and i just can't put in the car information. Do you have this problem?
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I downloaded the Dynolicious and i just can't put in the car information. Do you have this problem?

yea it seems like a lot of people have that problem. I wonder what the problem is, why some people can and some people can't...



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yea it seems like a lot of people have that problem. I wonder what the problem is, why some people can and some people can't...

That is odd. I mean, how many firmware variations can there possibly be?



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That is odd. I mean, how many firmware variations can there possibly be?

None, to get he apps you must have 2.0 and no updates have been released since 2.0. So everybody who can install this app is running the same version, so maybe the hardware differences between itouch/iphones?



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 Re: (Huckvw) »« »

I have this app and I love it! I achieved 90 HP in a Mazda 3, that seems very accurate.

however, we did some pulls in my friends 2G AWD BUILT UP talon, and it only recorded 150, that cannot be right.

I will do a full YouTube review of the unit tomorrow, stay tuned!


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Added my cars fine, but having trouble calibrating it. So its a little off. The mighty stock 200k 2.7 eta is pushing out 418 at the wheels. Not bad for a car that had 120 at the crank from the factory.

I wrote them an email yesterday, they said they will get back to me in 48 hrs. Heres hoping they have a solution for me.



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