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 Motive Quick Drive: 2009 Pontiac G5 XFE« »

So you managed to squeeze another seven horsepower out of your engine? Cool. We're sure your invitation to join the Ferrari F1 team is in the mail. But unless you and your buddies are a bunch of hypermiling dweebs, bragging about picking up two mpg will get you blank stares faster than your Borat imitation. Funny thing is, that's what Pontiac has done with the 2009 G5 XFE...

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thats really weird... a decent review for the g5? i absolutely hated that car, the interior was painful. the seats were ****ty, the engine was noisy. the overall drive of it was painful, sloppy steering, and just overall not that great of a car.



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Why are they doing cost comparisons???

I thought there was no additional charge for the XFE and it was basically the manual trans version.

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I drove a Cobalt with the base engine and 5-speed manual and it was a pretty miserable car. The only high point is that it is basically the traditional American living room sofa on wheels, scaled down to a compact size: cushy soft suspension, ridiculously over-boosted "steer with your pinkie" steering, and a nice stereo. If that and good mileage are your only priorities, then it will serve you well. But otherwise, the driving feel is numb and rubbery, the engine is gruff and does NOT like to be revved, the interior is full of Rubbermaid plastics, and the overall package keeps reminding you that you're driving GM's loss-leader.




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so, when are they putting this motor in the Astra and the Cobalt?



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It's never going in the Astra because of Astra's Belgian production. The reason we're stuck with the 1.8 in that car is because GM could federalize just one engine to bring Astra here, and the 1.8 is the only gas engine available with both an automatic and a manual option.

The VVT's already in the Cobalt for 2009.

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I don't want the 1.8



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 Re: Motive Quick Drive: 2009 Pontiac G5 XFE (features@motivemag) »« »

Hopefully a XFE version of the upcoming G3 is in the cards?



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I understand why Pontiac dealerships demanded a low priced car, but I am completely confused why the turbo engine (from the Cobalt SS) is not optional. If Pontiac is supposed be the perfomance division (RWD, FWD, or otherwise) it should get access to the hottest engines available in GM's garage. Also with the Vibe and G5 matching or bettering the the Aveo-based G3's fuel-economy, why are they bothering with furthering ruining Pontiac with that performance-less subcompact?



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Quote, originally posted by whitejeep1989 »
I understand why Pontiac dealerships demanded a low priced car, but I am completely confused why the turbo engine (from the Cobalt SS) is not optional. If Pontiac is supposed be the perfomance division (RWD, FWD, or otherwise) it should get access to the hottest engines available in GM's garage.

Agreed. Maybe because the 1st gen Cobalt SS S/C model wasn't the sales success the current model is?


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Also with the Vibe and G5 matching or bettering the the Aveo-based G3's fuel-economy, why are they bothering with furthering ruining Pontiac with that performance-less subcompact?

It costs less. A lot less. Quite a bit smaller too. It also has a 50% smaller engine. Not to mention the hatchback body style. The mpg is impressive for the money.



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What happens when people drive the car for a few years and need new tires? My guess is they'll just replace them with "whatever", and they won't be the same low rolling-resistance ones that came on it from the factory. Granted, the XFE will always have the enhanced engine, which certainly accounts for much of the bump in MPG...

What's the city mileage like?

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The answer to all of your questions is: Because GM hasn't had a clue what to do with Pontiac since the late 1960s...
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The answer to all of your questions is: Because GM hasn't had a clue what to do with Pontiac since the late 1960s...

Correction. GM hasn't an f'in clue what it's doing with any of its brands period. GM's idea of management is to figure out how to prevent its 8 brands from stepping on each others toes.

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