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 ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo« »

SynapseTurbo has come out with "ecoTechnik" - a bolt on stage 3 turbo kit for the Cobalt SS. It's making 371whp and 383ft lbs!

MSRP is only $3,999

Video of this animal:
http://www.vimeo.com/2238997

This ecotec motor has a lot of similarities to the 2.0T FSI... mechanical fuel pump, direct injected, turbocharged, etc.

The car itself is a lot of bang for the buck, it goes, stops and corners amazingly well for just over 20k. Insane brembo brakes, LSD, 6 speed, 250hp.... The interior leaves something to be desired, but I guess you can't have everything.

I'm trying to convince Synapse to build a 2.0T FSI kit


Edit: Added a few pics of the fab work:


Modified by Fahrvergnuugen at 6:52 AM 11-14-2008



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

the car is undoubtedly in the right hands!!
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They must be holding on for dear life when they punch the gas.

The car is awesome but that's a ton of power for FWD. Hopefully the Cruze will remedy the interior and exterior because it's hard to spend money on the car right now, regardless of performance.

But for folks looking for a cheap performance car, this is it.

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Looks like that would be a hoot to drive. Really like the styling of the coupe too. If I were in the market for a new car I would be looking long and hard at this one.



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I went sat down in one yesterday. MSRP: $24915 (w/ LSD), no hassle price: $22476.92. They also have a $1500 cash rebate, plus I might get a military discount. Really good price; if they had 0% or low % financing I'd get it, but the best they offer is a 6+%.



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That has to be a record for a streetable FWD car.



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That has to be a record for a streetable FWD car.

I think thats the best part about this car.

Its a brilliant setup. With this kit, the car runs and drives like a stock car, until you beat on it - then watch out.

Nothing is sacrificed, not even MPG (it gets 28 - 30 average, the fuel map is stock under normal driving). You've got AC, power steering, a decent stereo - its a killer setup



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

Wow, that's awesome. Please also convince Synapse to get one of these Cobalts out to Chicago so we can do a feature story.



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (stu@motivemag) »« »

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Wow, that's awesome. Please also convince Synapse to get one of these Cobalts out to Chicago so we can do a feature story.

I will PM you Morgan's contact info



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

That is insanity (says the MS3 owner).

There are one or two 400whp Speed3s, but there's a hell of a lot more than $4k in them.



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (PassSedanGLX) »« »

Me want now!



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That has to be a record for a streetable FWD car.

Good stuff, but hardly record-breaking.

http://www.1552v2.com/blogs/mk...x.cfm

We've built two of these GT3071R 2.0TFSI VWs to date and each is DSG. 380-hp to the front wheels and almost zero torque steer. Wheelspin, yes, but no torque steer

All boasting aside, it's great to see companies stepping up to working with the GM 2.0T. It's a great engine with tons of headroom.



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Quote, originally posted by brad@fifteen52 »

Good stuff, but hardly record-breaking.

http://www.1552v2.com/blogs/mk...x.cfm

We've built two of these GT3071R 2.0TFSI VWs to date and each is DSG. 380-hp to the front wheels and almost zero torque steer. Wheelspin, yes, but no torque steer

All boasting aside, it's great to see companies stepping up to working with the GM 2.0T. It's a great engine with tons of headroom.

How much does it cost and what are you doing about fuel (pump/injectors)?



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (PassSedanGLX) »« »

I would have o spend something like 7Gs to get the 2.0T FSI to these power levels..... Maybe we are getting jibbed....!



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Quote, originally posted by brad@fifteen52 »

We've built two of these GT3071R 2.0TFSI VWs to date and each is DSG. 380-hp to the front wheels and almost zero torque steer. Wheelspin, yes, but no torque steer

That seems to be the favorite. All of the 400whp+ Mazdaspeed cars I know of use a GT3071R.



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 Re: (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

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How much does it cost and what are you doing about fuel (pump/injectors)?

It costs more than $3999, I can tell you that Going past the 350-whp mark with these engines requires upgraded rods and that adds to the cost as you might imagine.

As for fueling, the APR modified rail pump + OE RS4 injectors are good for well over 500-whp.



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 Re: (PassSedanGLX) »« »

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That seems to be the favorite. All of the 400whp+ Mazdaspeed cars I know of use a GT3071R.

It's the perfect turbo for today's DI turbo engines. It's a big turbo for a 1.8T, but the 2.0s extra displacement, higher CR, and direct injection means a 3071 spools almost as quickly as a 2860 but has headroom to 400-whp+.

OP: sorry for the highjack! Please post up more on Cobalt!

Modified by brad@fifteen52 at 9:40 AM 11-14-2008



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 Re: ecoTechnik Cobalt SS TC by SynapseTurbo (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

Do want!.....


As for the interior... its not TERRIBLE, but it is certianly not class leading either. But, as long as they fixed the infamous dash crack, and it doesnt squeak anywhere near the amounts of J-bodies did, I would certianley want one of these.

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 Re: (brad@fifteen52) »« »

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It costs more than $3999, I can tell you that Going past the 350-whp mark with these engines requires upgraded rods and that adds to the cost as you might imagine.

As for fueling, the APR modified rail pump + OE RS4 injectors are good for well over 500-whp.

Gotcha. We have a MK5 GTI and I would love to run a setup like this, but the cost makes me ill.
The cost wouldn't be so bad if the stock fuel system could handle the power the way the Cobalt's can.



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They must be holding on for dear life when they punch the gas.

from the video, they can barely get grip to the wheels in the high RPM gas slammed range.

If they looked better, i'd hit it!



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 Re: (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

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Gotcha. We have a MK5 GTI and I would love to run a setup like this, but the cost makes me ill.
The cost wouldn't be so bad if the stock fuel system could handle the power the way the Cobalt's can.

Yup. $4k vs. $7k... But does the Synapse kit include the I/C upgrade (ours does)?

Either way, GM has built one fine engine and we'd love to get our hands on one some time soon.



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 Re: (brad@fifteen52) »« »

Does the SS have a front mount or top mount from the factory?



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Yup. $4k vs. $7k... But does the Synapse kit include the I/C upgrade (ours does)?

Either way, GM has built one fine engine and we'd love to get our hands on one some time soon.

Yes, it includes a 600HP intercooler, charge piping, tubular top mount manifold, 3" intake, 3" downpipe, BOV, etc.




Modified by Fahrvergnuugen at 6:57 AM 11-14-2008



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 Re: (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

I honestly love the new cobalt ss's. They have sachs suspension also. All my friends are like dude its still a cobalt and I say watch out these things are gonna be insane, once the aftermarket comes out. Too bad they dont have an awd one hehe.



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Yes, it includes a 600HP intercooler, charge piping, tubular top mount manifold, 3" intake, 3" downpipe, BOV, etc.

That's one hell of a deal. Software upgrade too? What management does this engine use?

And if I read correctly, a 2871R is being used, right? T25 hot-side? If so, has a 3071R T25 been tried?



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Cobalt SS + Red Tag sale + Haggle + 0% finance when it comes around and then immediately to Synapse sounds like a fun day.



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They must be holding on for dear life when they punch the gas.

The car is awesome but that's a ton of power for FWD. Hopefully the Cruze will remedy the interior and exterior because it's hard to spend money on the car right now, regardless of performance.

But for folks looking for a cheap performance car, this is it.

371 whp and 383 ft lbs of torks and FWD.......Involuntary U Turns FTL



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371 whp and 383 ft lbs of torks and FWD.......Involuntary U Turns FTL

Oh please

I've driven a 500+ FWHP honda that stayed perfectly straight with no torque steer. Traction bars are the secret, keeps the control arms from deflecting.



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Cobalt SS + Red Tag sale + Haggle + 0% finance when it comes around and then immediately to Synapse sounds like a fun day.

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That's one hell of a deal. Software upgrade too? What management does this engine use?

And if I read correctly, a 2871R is being used, right? T25 hot-side? If so, has a 3071R T25 been tried?

Yes, T25 hotside. Tuning is done with HP Tuners, the kit includes the run file, which can be uploaded by anyone with HP Tuner. You can do it yourself (need to buy HP Tuner), or Synapse can do it, or a local shop / HP Tuner dealer.



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nice car, bad judgment for showing off on public roads and breaking traffic laws, including the VW running the stop sign in the beg.



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 Re: (Fahrvergnuugen) »« »

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Tuning is done with HP Tuners, the kit includes the run file, which can be uploaded by anyone with HP Tuner. You can do it yourself (need to buy HP Tuner), or Synapse can do it, or a local shop / HP Tuner dealer.

There's a major cost saving right there.



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It's just a tarted up Cavalier!

Look at my car before flaming. If only I had 4k laying around.

I'll tell you now, even in stock form, this car is still a blast and always leaves me with a when I step out of it.

Modified by JoeBMX at 7:21 AM 11-14-2008



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