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 Motive List: The Great Depreciation - Fifteen of the Best Used-Car Deals Out There« »

A tanking economy doesn't have to be all bad news and nooses. Just look at fuel prices, which have come crashing down from unprecedented heights down to levels some younger drivers have never seen at the pump. For the ever-dwindling segment of the population still afloat, a deep recession may be the best time to indulge in a few luxuries that were just out of reach in the past.

In some cases, lightly used luxury rides like Range Rovers, Porsche Caymans, or Cadillac CTS-Vs can be had for Honda Accord prices; dollar amounts that far outstrip normal depreciation. Just be prepared to feel the wrath of your fellow motorists — nowadays, a luxury car can be a rolling target for loose-nut road-ragers with Buy American bumper stickers on their pickups.

Below is our list of top deals. We ignored the obvious stuff like ten-cent Tauruses and went for a set that's more aspirational. Remember, our nation's cup may be mostly empty, but at the same time it's a little bit full.

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Looking at 2 Range Rovers as we speak.



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Too bad most people who are able to afford these cars won't after seeing their retirement account....Well I guess thats why they are so low!

Oh the Economy!

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Yes please - http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...t=952



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Wow. I think I am going to look for a Crossfire now.
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can't believe i can actually buy a cayman



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 Re: FV-QR (vdubbug) »« »

Order, pick ANY. lol.


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can't believe i can actually buy a cayman

The problem is most other people can't. Although these prices are jaw-dropping, nobody has the buying power (which is why they are so damn cheap in the first place) so it's a wash.



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 Re: FV-QR (1320-20V) »« »

Great article. However, some of those seem rather LOW. Even in this market!

PS The Yukon XL pic isn't an XL Yukon.



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Wow. I think I am going to look for a Crossfire now.

Don't they have sh./tty MB manual transmissions?



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can't believe i can actually buy a cayman

Sure you can buy one for 30k. But can you afford to maintain the 50k sports car?

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I don't understand why the 996TT is on there. 44% depreciation in 6 years is pretty damn good IMO.
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Cayman S are still 38k+

Looks like I will be getting an M roadster next year! hah.


Ive seen 03 Range Rovers go for 17k, and 07 Escalades at 28k! I would pick up an SUV if gas wasnt going to balloon again




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I don't understand why the 996TT is on there. 44% depreciation in 6 years is pretty damn good IMO.

Me too... I am wondering.



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 Re: Motive List: The Great Depreciation - Fifteen of the ... (features@motivemag) »« »

I definitely need to cop a M roadster after reading this.



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I heard 08 M3 sedans are going for the mid $40k range. Not bad for something that cost $60k or so new just a few months ago.



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I don't understand why the 996TT is on there. 44% depreciation in 6 years is pretty damn good IMO.

They are all after 1 year of depreciation. Those are all 2007 deals so much better year/depreciation .
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Where are the Volvo's???? Seeing what XC70's and 90's are going for... They are at or near the top of this list.



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Sure you can buy one for 30k. But can you afford to maintain the 50k sports car?

That was my first thought reading the list.

The CTS-V is pretty attractive, though.



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Where is SAAB on that list? The 9-3 and 9-5 pretty much lose 98-percent of their values as soon as the front wheels cross the crub out of the dealership.



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can't believe i can actually buy a cayman

i know....would you rather have a new 2008 r32 or a used 2007 cayman....or a 2007 cts-v?

very ridiculous.

and to get a 2007 crossfire for cheaper than a new 2-door golf is freakin awesome.

Is the crossfire that bad?

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Where is SAAB on that list? The 9-3 and 9-5 pretty much lose 98-percent of their values as soon as the front wheels cross the crub out of the dealership.

x2. In the sedan category, they have to be near the top for high depreciation and great used deals.



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speaking of depreciation, there is an 07 RS4 for sale in MD for $36K, what is that a 44% depreciation, and it only has 10k miles on it. What a steal!



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any suggestion for sub-20k cars?

Also: what, no Saabs?



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speaking of depreciation, there is an 07 RS4 for sale in MD for $36K, what is that a 44% depreciation, and it only has 10k miles on it. What a steal!

where?

please give info.

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LR LR3 is my next purchase, I almost picked up an 06 with 25k miles for under $20k - like $18k OTD. Only problem was it was a V6 which isn't bad but the 4.4 V8 gets virually the same gas mileage.

A Z4 M Coupe is very tempting as well - it'll be my next Bimmer purchase, my budget is mid to upper $20's - so probably sometime next year at this pace.

What's interesting is dealers and owners are willing to make a deal even at these prices, expecially SUV's. If you are able to buy they'll drop these prices even more.

I keep using a new GTI price as a benchmark - I could buy a new GTI (not a chance) or an A8, or Land Rover, or a variety of Benz's, M cars, like a kid in a candy store -

LR3 and M Coupe new over $100k - my price point is under $50k for both/

What's interesting is the old E30's in my garage are still holding up price-wise.



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I really really wish these were Right Hand Drive vehicles. I'd be making a killing sending these overseas to Africa.
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It's on Autotrader and is located in Tacoma Park, the ad looks legit. Look it up and give a call, it has a (301) number listed on the ad.



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 Re: (JETTA PSYCHO) »« »

The only caveat is these are used cars. So you could technically afford the car, but youre ins premium is probably gonna be higher on a used cayman than on a new R32.

Also, youre finance rate usually doesnt hold a candle to what youd get on a new car.

that being said, i was looking for a CC in january, but looking more towards a nice CPO E-class instead.

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where?

please give info.

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I think not only the economy plays a factor but a lot of the company's made a ton of these cars. Like the 996 TT, they made one for basically everyone who wanted one or could afford it.
The price is average, I am sure it can be bought for in the mid to low $50k's on an 03 non X50 with lower miles.
The 95-98 911's and 87-89 911's still show strength in value retention, softening but there aren't many nice ones around.

The RS4 IMO will be a huge hit, the Auctions are showing low $40's for these almost into the $30's for 07's. Some dealers around here still feel after 5 months sitting on an 07 RS'4 they can get $65k for it HAHA!
A few dealers were getting rid of new 08's for around $59k from a $73k msrp price.

I hate to say this but some of these cars were over priced to begin with, at least 20% worst probably being the Land Rovers and Porsche Cayman/S.
I am ready to see what happens after January

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Given the economic climate, you could make this list virtually endless. Saabs are a good depreciation candidate and there are many others. We couldn't list everyone so we went for three in a few key segments. The focus was aspirational cars - cars that you'd be surprised are within your reach.

We stayed clear of the non-aspirational car territory. Cars like the Civic and even the Jetta GLI are more insulated given there's still more demand for those. To be sure, a 1-2 year old car on the used market is almost always a great deal as these are two of the worst years for depreciation. No, you can't get as good of an APR, but that said, many of these do qualify for Certified Pre-Owned programs that will move the manufacturer warranty out to like 100k miles in many cases. If I were doing a Cayman right now (and likely would be if I didn't have two kids), I'd try to get one under Porsche's CPO program. That's a bit of a premium, but it's worth every penny.



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Given the economic climate, you could make this list virtually endless. Saabs are a good depreciation candidate and there are many others.

Saabs depreciate like stones no matter what the economy.



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