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 Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir?« »

It seems that automakers are finding a new sweet spot in equipping performance cars with boosted v6's rather than the more traditional v8. I've had both types of engines in cars I've owned, and I'm a serious big cubes fan...or at least was until just lately.

Taking into account performance, fuel economy, maintenance, sound, or any characteristic that is near and dear to you when picking out a performance car (<--- using the term loosely, so one can consider definition stretchers like the Flex Ecoboost), what would you want to see in your next performance car, and why?

Me? After seeing the dynographs and mileage #'s of the new S4 and Ecoboost SHO, I'm leaning pretty heavily toward the boosted v6s.



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Boosted (turbo or super) v6 (68%, 141 votes)
 
Naturally aspirated v8 (31%, 65 votes)
 
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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

Don't care. Either works for me as long as the power's there.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

What about boosted inline-six?





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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

I have had both and this satisfied my needs for power and efficiency.




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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

NA V8 for reliability



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To me a muscle car only has muscle if its a V8. But I guess with times a changing... now anything with a turbo/v6 combo is now a muscle car?
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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (Nubbin) »« »

I think RRAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR is a better sound than BRRRRRRRRSQUUUEEEEEEEE*whoosh* so V8 for me.



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They make some pretty nice sounding V6's now without a turbo.

So I can get a strong V6, plus the sound of a turbo? Yes please.

But for true muscle car noises and torque, I'd really still prefer a V8.



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It's not muscle anymore if they go FI ... muscle cars are suppose to be PURE engine POWER. With that V8 rawr sound...
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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

V8, all day, everyday. Gotta have that sound.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (JustinCSVT) »« »

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V8, all day, everyday. Gotta have that sound.

I concur. I'll stick with 500whp naturally aspirated, thank you.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

I'll take a blown V8.
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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (UrlorJkron) »« »

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I'll take a blown V8.

*eeennuughh*

Invalid answer, senor. The blown v8 versus NA v8 poll is later tonight.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

I'm a sucker for a V8 exhaust note.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (stu@kilometer) »« »

natural aspiration over boost anyday of the week, twice on sunday.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (Blackballed) »« »

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I think RRAAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR is a better sound than BRRRRRRRRSQUUUEEEEEEEE*whoosh* so V8 for me.

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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

No 6 can rumble like an 8.

V8 all the time.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

Are any vehicles supercharged from the factory now? (besides the GT500 )



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V8s are slowly but surely disappearing. boosted 6's are a proven platform with notable gains in fuel mileage. I prefer the sound of 8's but they are going the way of the dinosaur.



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But for true muscle car noises and torque, I'd really still prefer a V8.

Muscle car torque = NA V8 ??

So you are stating that modern NA V8 engines make more torque (muscle car levels of torque) compared to modern turbo charged six cylinder engines (with max power output of both engines being equal)?

If that's the case, and is correct, they need to get to work on developing turbo charged six cylinder engines that produce NA V8 levels of torque before they can replace the V8. I was under the impression that blown sixes were already there, but I may be wrong.





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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

I voted V8 but the real answer, of course, is V10.


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And as usual, the poll contradicts the actual people posting in the thread. Me thinks of ghosts of fanbois are entering the thread.



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V8 for sure in the case of a sports car
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And as usual, the poll contradicts the actual people posting in the thread. Me thinks of ghosts of fanbois are entering the thread.

me think you are paranoid about fanbois.

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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (PassSedanGLX) »« »

Quote, originally posted by PassSedanGLX »
Don't care. Either works for me as long as the power's there.

I sort of feel the same. Now, many of you may recall me hating on turbos, and I usually do because they usually are bolted to a piddly-ass four banger. I find sixes pull boost off as seamlessly as all motor, so I tend to like those applications. For the sake of argument I voted V8, though, mostly because it is the default N/A option.



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Well if you can explain the disparity, please do. I wish more people would come in and explain their reasons. If they don't, I assume they have none. Those people are usually the ones that say "just because", and usually they are fanbois.

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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

I see myself picking up a B8 S4 in the next 4 years.



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Muscle car torque = NA V8 ??

So you are stating that modern NA V8 engines make more torque (muscle car levels of torque) compared to modern turbo charged six cylinder engines (with max power output of both engines being equal)?

If that's the case, and is correct, they need to get to work on developing turbo charged six cylinder engines that produce NA V8 levels of torque before they can replace the V8. I was under the impression that blown sixes were already there, but I may be wrong.

It's not just the numbers. It's how you get them and what they feel like while driving. You bolt a turbine to pretty much any motor and it has the potential to make more power than larger engines.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

Ok, we're 34 votes in and the biggest argument for NA v8s is the sound. Sure, there's some mention of torks and muscle car history, but it's all about sound for most guys. Interestingly there's little mention of fuel economy (go figure, eh?).

Representing v8 sounds -

Ford DOHC 4.6 (modified)
C6 Z06 (stock)
F430 (Tubi Modified)
B7 S4 (stock)


juxtaposed by the blown v6 crew:

2010 Taurus SHO (modified)
335i (modified Rennart)

I'd have posted a sound clip of the B8 S4, but I can't find a decent example.




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I see myself picking up a B8 S4 in the next 4 years.

I really want one too, but...My pops has a Touareg and I've seen the gas pump punishment that motor dispenses. Remember late 80s Mike Tyson? It's like to your wallet.



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 Re: Tide's a changin': boosted v6 or a v8 for you, sir? (jcochran37) »« »

Quote, originally posted by jcochran37 »
Interestingly there's little mention of fuel economy (go figure, eh?).


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I voted V8 but the real answer, of course, is V10.

This man is 100% correct.



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Quote, originally posted by efrie »
They make some pretty nice sounding V6's now without a turbo.

So I can get a strong V6, plus the sound of a turbo? Yes please.

But for true muscle car noises and torque, I'd really still prefer a V8.

My sentiments exactly.

Loved my 3.2L VR6, but loving my 427 cu. in. V8 even more.



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