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Seriously....



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If you had magnets to repel the car from the ground. But there is no free energy.



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- Equal-sized home planets with less mass.
- Bigger home planets with equal mass.
- Goat
- Stick
- Bear
- Pineapple

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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (Spa_driver) »« »

The effect of gravity is actually quite minor, since at highway speeds air resistance takes over from rolling resistance, and in the city and in stop-and-go traffic, inertia is the culprit.

Low rolling-resistance tires are an obvious solution, but the ones that are really good at it suck when it comes to braking and turning... so much so, that several reviews have concluded that they are unsafe at any speed.

Well, we have automatically adjusting suspension, these days, so I propose automatically adjusting tires.

A larger planet with the same mass is the next best solution.



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Why would we want less gravity to effect our cars?



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- Equal-sized home planets with less mass.
- Bigger home planets with equal mass.
- Goat
- Stick
- Bear
- Pineapple


I tried Pineapple. I tried and tried and tried, but those bastards kept leaving me to sniff the laundry soap rather than doing their damn jobs and holding the flashlight steady. If you've had any better experiences with those a-holes, please enlighten me. What am I doing wrong? I see the logic in Bear, but we've had issues before and couldn't possibly maintain a pletonic relationship. Stick sounds promising, but expensive. I'm not talking to Goat after what happened at the "Christmas party".



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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (Spa_driver) »« »

Reduce vehicle weight?



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I've noticed kids in third world countries will do a lot for a soccer ball. I mean they will brawl!
Maybe soccer ball on a stick dangling from a string and a gang of Iraqi children?



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I wanna install a huge air cannon to the hood of my car to create my own self contained draft machine.



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Superconductors.



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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (two.twoliter) »« »

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Reduce vehicle weight?

This one.

Remember, inertia is there regardless of gravity. So if you reduce gravity and keep the same mass, your cars handling will just get worse, since gravity produces the normal force on your tires, which provides lateral traction. No gravity, no lateral traction. Less gravity, less lateral traction - but the same inertia.

Gravity helps cars. Mass hurts cars.

Modified by gsrroger at 5:02 AM 11-7-2009



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Superconductors.

Along that line of thought, superfluids and Bose-Einstein Condensates are gases at very low temperatures whose particles magically(not really, I'm just not that educated in this stuff) become Bosons- particles that don't follow our laws of thermodynamics.

A Bose-Einstein Condensate has a viscosity of 0 and thus can 'move' without expending energy. 1L of a condensate (although that's much more than has been made) poured into a glass cup would flow through the cup instantly since bosons can all occupy the same space at the same time. They have no friction and thus can be spun inside something like a donut or disc with a hollow interior up to speeds that would allow it's mass to have an effect on what we call gravity.

Scientists at Harvard and CSU are already working on projects related to this. A Harvard team manage to slow down a beam of light from a laser down to 17m/s using a BEC.




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Along that line of thought, superfluids and Bose-Einstein Condensates are gases at very low temperatures whose particles magically(not really, I'm just not that educated in this stuff) become Bosons- particles that don't follow our laws of thermodynamics.

A Bose-Einstein Condensate has a viscosity of 0 and thus can 'move' without expending energy. 1L of a condensate (although that's much more than has been made) poured into a glass cup would flow through the cup instantly since bosons can all occupy the same space at the same time. They have no friction and thus can be spun inside something like a donut or disc with a hollow interior up to speeds that would allow it's mass to have an effect on what we call gravity.

Scientists at Harvard and CSU are already working on projects related to this. A Harvard team manage to slow down a beam of light from a laser down to 17m/s using a BEC.

That sounds pretty miraculous. I could see someday superconductors being used for railways or other "permanent" infrastructures, but BEC sounds as if it would be much more mobile.




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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (Spa_driver) »« »

Drive on the moon. I have never been there, but from what I hear the gravity is about 1/3 of that here on the big blue marble.




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If you reduce the mass of the earth, then the effect of gravity will be less.





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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (Spa_driver) »« »

Lighter than air gas? Like helium? I really question your sanity for even stating this ... do you mean like an airship that doesn't fly? Weird wild stuff.

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I don't think anyone questions the fact that the OP is not brightest crayon in the box.



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Space travel



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Flubber??

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One of these:


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Move to the moon.




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Fill your car with Helium!

duhhh he said BESIDES lighter than air gases!

perhaps attaching a giant blower to the undercarriage of your car to help push it off the ground, mounting 4x1.8T off some mkiv's to help boost it will increase the lift off ratio.




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- Equal-sized home planets with less mass.
- Bigger home planets with equal mass.
- Goat
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- Pineapple

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Quote, originally posted by Chillininfl »

Along that line of thought, superfluids and Bose-Einstein Condensates are gases at very low temperatures whose particles magically(not really, I'm just not that educated in this stuff) become Bosons- particles that don't follow our laws of thermodynamics.

A Bose-Einstein Condensate has a viscosity of 0 and thus can 'move' without expending energy. 1L of a condensate (although that's much more than has been made) poured into a glass cup would flow through the cup instantly since bosons can all occupy the same space at the same time. They have no friction and thus can be spun inside something like a BAGEL or disc with a hollow interior up to speeds that would allow it's mass to have an effect on what we call gravity.

Scientists at Harvard and CSU are already working on projects related to this. A Harvard team manage to slow down a beam of light from a laser down to 17m/s using a BEC.

FTFY



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 Re: Besides lighter-than-air gases, what technology could lessen the effect of ... (Spa_driver) »« »

Lighter-than-currently-used-materials.

When they figure out one day how to make cars out of nanotubes, they'll be a fraction of the weight they are now. Which means their performance right now is a fraction of what it will be then.

But yeah...gravity is not a bad thing. In fact, racing teams go out of their way to INCREASE the effects of gravity by putting wings, diffusers, fans, spoilers, etc. on their cars, many of which have either been outright banned or severely curbed.

What you don't want is mass, for which the best solution is, as per my original answer, less mass.

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Great idea. It's right up there with this one.





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reverse spoilers

But you are adding aero drag to lift the car. You are just swapping friction drag for aero drag, and making the vehicle very unstable to boot.

I say glass.
As in let's find a better material to use for vehicle windows, one that is significantly lighter, shatter resistant and scratch resistant. I know it can be done.



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Don't ever change, JM.

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Hence, tire squeal.

in the other thread... which will forever change what I think and feel when going around corners, enthusiastically.

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